External oil pump

[TheRealStreetcommander]

Please point to a single cold-start oil related failure... The big lobe is not engaged at all under 3k RPM, so that is a disingenuous argument. Pentastar have zero other oil related failures. Pentastar don't really fail at all, except as an anomaly. This comical oil drain-back issue is a manufactured concern. Everyone likes to talk about what it does, but no one wants to discuss why it makes any sense at all to purchase and install one. If it makes you feel good to use one, please do. It's not productive to misattribute benefits or make up oil start-up issues which don't exists.

Our great-grampas were using oil accumulators and similar priming and oiling control devices from the beginning of time. If they were even remotely necessary, Mopar would have used something like this. If a manufacturer honestly believed cold start oiling was a real concern, they'd be designing and selling a similar device that actually created oil pressure prior to cranking the engine. Primitive engines had F-ing hand pumps for this purpose.

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[CoachA]

I wonder if this analogy might be useful in these discussions of external oil coolers, Baxter adapters and the like. Perhaps it’s not so much a matter of Jeep design flaws as it is modifications that might improve original design parameters. Sort of like this: JTR OEM rock sliders work adequately for their intended use. However, I think most might agree that there are much better after market sliders that provide greater protection. Just a thought.

 

[willys 41]

From day one 1974 at age 16 I have put 300 to 400 thousand miles on all my cars and trucks
I have never had to replace motor or trans . always replace oil at 4000 and trans fluid at 20k
If I can spend only $300 to keep oil up in the top of the the motor and eliminate that bone chilling rattle on start ups I will do it
When I did my first oil change on my 3.6 at 1000 miles I look at the oil filter and said this is going to be a mess
I completely rapped the housing with a rag and hoped to catch all the oil that spilled out
To my surprise the oil filter housing was completely empty. There wasn't even oil dripping from the oil filter. In my 45 years turning a wrench for a living I have never seen an oil filter completely void of oil
I said to my self that's not right and how can I fix it
With the Baxter on both my Wranglers no more rattle on cold start ups. It is fixed
Will it help me get 400k out of my 3.6 I don't Know put it ant going to hurt
My work truck a 2000 tundra has 380k miles and still going strong

 

[BTG36]

What I'm designing is a pump to replace the internal pump altogether. This is just for experimental purposes. Just something I want to try out.
The purpose is to prime the motor and keep the oil pressure up.

 

[willys 41]

Yes. I understand
I was addressing all the skeptics about the Baxter adapter and its benefits and why I chose to go with it

 

[Mumeral]

I have already deleted the auxiliary battery and stepped up to an h7 battery. Plus I have a flexible solar panel on the roof with a charge controller set to trickle charge.

I already know about the Baxter Performance. I'm in the works of designing something similar but more technically advanced.

Where are you with this design?

 

[Waltzforzizi]

I've installed a system like this on a 844 loader. It would run for a couple of seconds before it started cranking. Makes oil changes really quick with a quick coupler.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Where are you with this design?

A distant memory, many bong rips ago. Probably doesn't even own the Gladdy still.

Super easy to sit on the couch and go, you know what they outta do? boy I'll tell you whut.

Quite another to design, test, build, and bring a function product to market.

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