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All, I am installing a new light fixture but apparently the weight is more than what we currently had up there and the bracket was not enough to hold in place - was tilting off the wall with the weight. I need to add another anchor point, which I think will need to be same bracket, just positioned an inch or two higher, but can’t seem to find anywhere. Anyone know what this specific bracket is called or where to find?

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Run a 2x4 between the studs, behind pipes, screw 2x4 into studs two each side, screw in place with current braket setup. That said, I'm no expert, just what I would do

Not exactly what I'm talking about but kinda like this...

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Run a 2x4 between the studs, behind pipes, screw 2x4 into studs two each side, screw in place with current braket setup. That said, I'm no expert, just what I would do

Not exactly what I'm talking about but kinda like this...

The wall I see is a 2"x4" wall with a 1" PVC riser in the middle. No room for a 2"x4" kicker whether vertical or horizontal face.

Oh, I missed the 2" behind the electrical box. Yup, you need a face mounted strap of some kind.
 
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Run a 2x4 between the studs, behind pipes, screw 2x4 into studs two each side, screw in place with current braket setup. That said, I'm no expert, just what I would do

Not exactly what I'm talking about but kinda like this...

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Thanks man. This is useful and I thought of something similar but those pipes leave less than a half inch of wiggle room so I’m very limited in options
 

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Run a 2x4 between the studs, behind pipes, screw 2x4 into studs two each side, screw in place with current braket setup. That said, I'm no expert, just what I would do

Not exactly what I'm talking about but kinda like this...

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Either this or make one out of unistrut
 

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The wall I see is a 2"x4" wall with a 1" PVC riser in the middle. No room for a 2"x4" kicker whether vertical or horizontal face.

Oh, I missed the 2" behind the electrical box. Yup, you need a face mounted strap of some kind.

I dunno. Like I said I'm no expert but I bet I could get one in there. Maybe have to shave it down a bit. Just what my first attempt would be.

Just as a guy on his 3rd house who refuses to call professionals.


Thanks man. This is useful and I thought of something similar but those pipes leave less than a half inch of wiggle room so I’m very limited in options
No limits. Make wood fit with brute strength and cutting implements. Not surgery here. Again though, just what I would do.
 

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This looks like the right idea, I’m wondering how strong it is. The fixture weighs about 30 pounds I’m guessing
Stronger than the flat strap you have now.

From the pictures you can't tell that there are raised channels in the middle. Two screws on each end into studs and then two screws through box and through channel.
 

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All, I am installing a new light fixture but apparently the weight is more than what we currently had up there and the bracket was not enough to hold in place - was tilting off the wall with the weight. I need to add another anchor point, which I think will need to be same bracket, just positioned an inch or two higher, but can’t seem to find anywhere. Anyone know what this specific bracket is called or where to find?

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The type of bracket you want is one used to mount a ceiling fan. It looks similar to what you have, but fits between the studs and supports more weight. Should be able to find at any home improvement store.
 

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The installation instructions should tell you what you need.

Looks like you have room to run another stud between the black and white pipe if additional support is necessary
 

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If there's there's not enough room for a 2x4, use 1/2" plywood between the studs. The wider you make it, the more it will resist twisting. Use 2x2 nailers on the studs, set back 1/2" so the plywood ends up flush with the surface of the wall.
 
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If there's there's not enough room for a 2x4, use 1/2" plywood between the studs. The wider you make it, the more it will resist twisting. Use 2x2 nailers on the studs, set back 1/2" so the plywood ends up flush with the surface of the wall.
I like this idea but can’t think of the type of 2x2 nailer I’d use to hold the plywood in place
 

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I like this idea but can’t think of the type of 2x2 nailer I’d use to hold the plywood in place
A wooden 2x2 (a 2x4 sawed in half lengthwise). You attach it to the middle of the studs on either side, set back 1/2" from the front of the studs. That gives you something to attach the plywood to.
 

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Who installed the original box to begin with? That is a face mounted pancake box that is supposed to be mounted right on the front face of the stud with at least two screws, there are a couple extra knockouts out , cable clamp is missing, the bracket used is one leg of four required to mount a recessed light in ceiling. It's an electrical part but not for what you are doing. If you can move the box over to stud two inches use a new version of what you have ground the box, clamp the wire and screw it to the stud with number ten by 2" screws, or you can get a box with a side mount bracket on it and screw it to side of stud, and end up in exact place you are now. Take a ride to Home Depot and look around at the metal boxes you will see what you need cost for box is probably $4.00. The bracket bar you were shown is for holding plumbing pipes not electrical boxes.
Just get the right part and use it, I'm an electrician, we are a pretty anal bunch, but not as bad as your insurance company , or code officers if they saw that. Electricians doing work, even if unlicensed are responsible for their work, if done wrong or Half-Ass forever.
I'm a Master electrician and a manger of a electrical division, and I buried John H. ,one of my foreman cause of someones poor work done in 1995, and we found him 24 years later!
Improperly mounted box no cable clamp can result in trouble, just do it right...Jack
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