Firestone RideRite, Air-Lift, or Timber Grove Airbags on a Mojave?

[Az_Ed]

I just finished cutting out my Firestone CoilRite airbags from the springs of my 2020 Mojave. They were installed by a 4WD shop on Speedway in Tucson and the bright boys installed the upper rubber bushings upside-down. This resulted in the top of the bags not having a flat surface to force against and they pinched until failure. The shop has since moved/renamed so I'm SOL. I got lazy and didn't install myself. That will never happen again.
I have a canopy, tools, jack, etc totaling about 340 lbs in back at all times. Not too much sag at this weight. When I connect my 4000 lb trailer with about 380 lbs of tongue weight the sag is excessive. I want to install new air bags since this best fits my driving. I can run 10 PSI or so unloaded and more pressure to level when towing.
Timber Grove has some Gladiator bags. Has anyone installed these on a stock height Mojave with success? I'm worried their bags offered may not fit all models of the Gladiator. Alternatives are the Firestone RideRite bags which I had. They will likely last with a proper installation. Airlift also markets bags. I need to offset about 700 lbs total when towing.
I don't think Timbren or Sumo bump stop replacements would sufficiently level the ride when 400 lbs of extra weight are dropped on the hitch, but I have no experience with this approach.
Any recommendations or comments are most welcome. Ed, Tucson, AZ

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[Lunentucker]

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[SREAD]

I've got the airlift on my stock Mojave. Haven't really used them much so far as I haven't done any towing but have had a very similar set on my Suburban for years and they work fine. Hard to beat for the price .

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Would the air bags like I run in my Overland not work in Mojave with the proper spacers??

 

[jeepers29]

Would the air bags like I run in my Overland not work in Mojave with the proper spacers??

Those look like the airlift ones I just received today. Hoping to install tomorro0w on my Mojave. I am aiming to have a similar setup to OP.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Those look like the airlift ones I just received today. Hoping to install tomorro0w on my Mojave. I am aiming to have a similar setup to OP.

Yes, the AIRLIFT 1000 set.

Would love to know if they work on Mojave.

 

[Az_Ed]

Thanks for the comments. The Accuair system is a little too much for my simple needs. The Firestone RideRite Coil-Rite model 4148 worked well in my Mojave until the improper installation ruined them. Firestone supplied rubber pucks that fit inside the coils for both the top and bottom of the bags. I think I'm going to try the Air Lift 1000 bags. It looks like Air Lift 1000 model 60830 are the correct bags.

 

[jeepers29]

Thanks for the comments. The Accuair system is a little too much for my simple needs. The Firestone RideRite Coil-Rite model 4148 worked well in my Mojave until the improper installation ruined them. Firestone supplied rubber pucks that fit inside the coils for both the top and bottom of the bags. I think I'm going to try the Air Lift 1000 bags. It looks like Air Lift 1000 model 60830 are the correct bags.

Thats the ones I ordered for my Mojave.

 

[Benbean66]

I know it's not apples to apples, but I have the Timber Grove setup on my Sport, and I love them. I have them plumbed to a "Y" with a separate shut-off on each bag so I can control whether I want them to aid in body roll or not. I like this setup versus the in-spring type, because the bags are mounted farther out on the axle (they replace the bump stops) and I feel the additional leverage helps with stability. They also make a huge difference in ride height depending on how much air I keep in them vs what kind of weight I have in/on the back.

 

[jeepers29]

I know it's not apples to apples, but I have the Timber Grove setup on my Sport, and I love them. I have them plumbed to a "Y" with a separate shut-off on each bag so I can control whether I want them to aid in body roll or not. I like this setup versus the in-spring type, because the bags are mounted farther out on the axle (they replace the bump stops) and I feel the additional leverage helps with stability. They also make a huge difference in ride height depending on how much air I keep in them vs what kind of weight I have in/on the back.

My understanding is the Timbren Grove helpers limit articulation. Have you found that to be true?

 

[Benbean66]

My understanding is the Timbren Grove helpers limit articulation. Have you found that to be true?

So technically yes, I do believe they limit articulation. I use my JT for all sorts of things so I modified my brackets and extended the bolts that mount the bag to the brackets and I have near full articulation with 3 inches of lift.

 

[AmishMike]

Three years with Airlifts. I run 3psi empty and only 10-12 loaded. Love them. Just have to remember to dump air when off roading.
I ran the air line to the rear bumper and drilled out what would be a lower license plate bolt for the fitting.
Install was super easy, jacked up the truck to give extra room between coils and slid them in.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

If I ever sell or trade, I remove it all and put black plastic plugs in the holes.

 

[Alaska-HWY JK]

Airlift lasted 1 winter for us and failed. They sent a new set of bags on warranty but I didn’t bother installing them. Not much point. I spoke with my Jeep buddy/mechanic at dealership here and he confirmed they have a poor record in cold climate.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Airlift lasted 1 winter for us and failed. They sent a new set of bags on warranty but I didn’t bother installing them. Not much point. I spoke with my Jeep buddy/mechanic at dealership here and he confirmed they have a poor record in cold climate.

It doesn't get too cold here in Iowa - typical worst for a winter is minus 20 (F) (minus 29 C). This year it was only -15 (F) (-26 C)

Mine have only been under my truck for 2 winters (installed August 2022) so no real long-term experience with them.
I will say that after I towed last fall and set the psi back down to 5 psi, it's still sitting at 5 psi now so at least they hold air extremely well over several months time.

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