Gladiator on the rocks...

[Jeepin Weekend]

And it is Casey not Cassie. I do know a few chicks named Casey but no dudes named Cassie.

Whoops, my bad, editing accordingly...

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[TennesseePA]

LOL, I'm sure he appreciates the edits. I had to check my auto correct before I hit post to make sure I didn't do the same thing.

 

[steffen707]

ESS ANYONE???

 

[steffen707]

Ummmmm No! ESS is disabled in 4LO

Maybe they had it in 2HI, that might explain things.

 

[steffen707]

Are you saying @BestopTeam Cassie couldn't climb Wipe Out Hill?

Well, I'll agree on you not being my "boss man", but I can assure you that is without any negative connotations. Anyhow I too was not referencing the person behind the wheel in any way. I was just mentioning Casey since he's demonstrating the vehicle's capability. We can sit here and make the same argument that every person and their dog is making with the "people won't offroad their new vehicle" but that's just a generalization, I will be offroading mine. And for the record, I am talking about the vehicles off the lot capability, which is unarguably very good. My Rubicon back when it was stock was doing some crazy things.

(EDIT : Casey not Cassie)

 

[guarnibl]

My bone stock '19 JLUR went through trails that were "rated" for 35"+ tires (6-7+ ratings), including the last obstacle on Golden Spike, without issue (many folks winch up here). No damage. Used skid plates and rock sliders for sure, but that's what they are designed for. The crack was fun too. Driver skill makes a difference (and experience), but Chrysler did a great job on the JLUR with the suspension. I wouldn't take the (stock) JLU through pritchett, cliffhanger, or rusty nail, but I wouldn't hesitate on the others. Bone stock that thing got great traction as long as it could get a tire on the ground (or obstacle), and the weight transferred nicely when off road and sway bar disconnected. JK seemed to want to go all over the place with front sway bar disconnected and the JL doesn't exhibit the same behavior. IMO, they seem to have significantly more traction stock off road than the JK did.

The weakness on the JT will be the breakover angle and departure angle (duh). It will get high centered on stock height frequently on stock height/tires in Moab, and will likely drag the bed/bumper on many many of the moab climbs. Lift/tires will help significantly with this, enough to overcome it -- but it'll still be a bit harry on narrow turn trails. EVO's was lifted pretty high on big tires and would go through everything. Overall, this truck will be very successful. However, I expect 4"-6" will be the more common lift height on these as opposed to 2.5" on the JL.

Excited to get my Sport, once they'll let me order it.

 

[Jeepin Weekend]

Are you saying @BestopTeam Cassie couldn't climb Wipe Out Hill?

And I'll take it to my grave!

 

[jayd33]

Looked like a stall and slow to get the clutch out... What do you think was cause

I clearly heard the spotter say “back up a little bit”, but It looked like the driver backed up a little too much; that and maybe driver didn’t hit the breaks?

 

[5JeepsAz]

We probably all have missed a shift, hit a hole mid hill, backed up and tried again. We've probably all been put on the spot by spotters and did our own thing despite instructions otherwise. So I'm not judging how that JT got untracked. I'm interested in the what... Like that thing rolled back free, because what? In reverse, high gear, with a cliffy thing behind you? Jeez. That could be what happened, but man, I'm getting 4:10s for sure and keeping it low if that's what happened.

 

[Lou3.6]

Well, I'll agree on you not being my "boss man", but I can assure you that is without any negative connotations. Anyhow I too was not referencing the person behind the wheel in any way. I was just mentioning Casey since he's demonstrating the vehicle's capability. We can sit here and make the same argument that every person and their dog is making with the "people won't offroad their new vehicle" but that's just a generalization, I will be offroading mine. And for the record, I am talking about the vehicles off the lot capability, which is unarguably very good. My Rubicon back when it was stock was doing some crazy things.

(EDIT : Casey not Cassie)

Seems after the dust settles, we seem to have some common ground . . . I agree, and Casey it is !
Good Luck with keeping damages to a minimum . . . but then again IF your willing to "go out on a limb" with your new truck, I guess the repair cost factor doesn't become an issue of you, like it would with many others . Be Safe.

 

[Lou3.6]

My bone stock '19 JLUR went through trails that were "rated" for 35"+ tires (6-7+ ratings), including the last obstacle on Golden Spike, without issue (many folks winch up here). No damage. Used skid plates and rock sliders for sure, but that's what they are designed for. The crack was fun too. Driver skill makes a difference (and experience), but Chrysler did a great job on the JLUR with the suspension. I wouldn't take the (stock) JLU through pritchett, cliffhanger, or rusty nail, but I wouldn't hesitate on the others. Bone stock that thing got great traction as long as it could get a tire on the ground (or obstacle), and the weight transferred nicely when off road and sway bar disconnected. JK seemed to want to go all over the place with front sway bar disconnected and the JL doesn't exhibit the same behavior. IMO, they seem to have significantly more traction stock off road than the JK did.

The weakness on the JT will be the breakover angle and departure angle (duh). It will get high centered on stock height frequently on stock height/tires in Moab, and will likely drag the bed/bumper on many many of the moab climbs. Lift/tires will help significantly with this, enough to overcome it -- but it'll still be a bit harry on narrow turn trails. EVO's was lifted pretty high on big tires and would go through everything. Overall, this truck will be very successful. However, I expect 4"-6" will be the more common lift height on these as opposed to 2.5" on the JL.

Excited to get my Sport, once they'll let me order it.

Yea what he said . . . nicely stated. Point being I think, that you just get what fits your wants & needs, and perhaps some wishful thinkings along the way too !
JLU or JT Sports . . . either fits my bill. scraping bottom not gonna be an issue to the extent of "real damages" that may keep me from returning home in one piece. For the wildly adventurous daredevils this could be a problem. ? ~8 billion of us and nary a one is identical to the other (inside). The "inside" is clarification for the antagonist's point of view !

 

[Lou3.6]

It honestly looks like the driver panicked. The wheels were rolling so they didn’t have a foot on the brake. When you’re new at this and people start yelling like they did some people get flustered and either do the wrong thing or do nothing, in the situation both those were trouble.

I'll hold my "judgement" - not really; I won't be judgmental about this tragic event or the folks involved ! edit - oops, I'm actually referring to the other event with the JLU and the woman, but my lessons learned or that could be learned still apply, imo.
Just gonna wait for whatever is determined from whatever "official" accounting has /will happen and try to learn from it. Again this is in reference to the JLU accident from a couple days ago.
Not that I'd ever put myself in a situation remotely as complex as his. I suppose the Obvious lesson already learned is; to ALWAYS expect the UNEXPECTED, and PLAN for it as best as possible ! Such as referencing others similar past experiences. A couple of long deep breaths allowing some foresight to "kick-in" would be helpful (lesson #2). Good for Future Reference - self noted, thanks Lou. Your Welcome, Lou .

 

[TennesseePA]

Just watched the video again and the driver was in reverse because the backup lights cam on and didn't go out. I just think that a new driver was in over their head. The left rear fender is already loose at the start of the video so this wasn't the first incident.

 

[Tortooga Custom Works]

I'll disagree with you on that boss man, maybe not as good on rocks as a JLUR, but I'm sure it'll make short work of most rocky obstacles. Casey's been taking it up some pretty gnarly stuff...



Also, I'll be sure to post pics whenever I get mine because I plan on doing this stuff

(EDIT : Casey not Cassie)

is the angle of this doctored!? that's steeeeeeep!!!

 

[Markim37]

And this is why OverLand drivers should stick to the pavement . . . ! Bet THAT was embarrassing at least, and maybe a "Brown Streak Enhancer" too ? Gladiators were NOT built as a Rock Crawling Beast. Even if you put Thousands into a Lift, Wheels & Tires as big as your (perceived) "Nutz," it's just NOT as Capable as a JLU Rubicon with same after market build-up !
The Gladiator is a "LifeStyle Enhancer" !

EXACTLY: The Gladiator is not a rock crawler. You can add the lifts and some 40's and it will make a huge difference, but it is not built to replace the Wrangler. I plan on using the the Gladiator as the perfect Overland vehicle. Buying the Sport S with max towing, all terrain tires, rear lock, a two inch lift and some comforts. Can't wait.

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