Without the warranty.If you get an Overland and put $3k into it, you'll still have saved $7k and be more capable than a stock Rubicon or Mojave
No doubt, people with lockers and 40" tires get stuck all the time, a stock Rubicon with lockers probably isn't going much further than any other Gladiator in most scenarios... I agree, the enthusiasts that are actually tapping into that extra capability are probably few and far between, especially if their rig is close to stock.That being said, not actually knocking the Rubicon lockers, it's a nice feature...Honestly though, almost no one in the market uses even the rear locker on either model. People are getting them for the overall looks and trim level. Enthusiasts are such a small portion of the market, despite how important we think we are
Gears, lockers, t-case, and tires for $3k? How and where?If you get an Overland and put $3k into it, you'll still have saved $7k and be more capable than a stock Rubicon or Mojave
Most Rubi owners do not use the lockers because they do not take them off road.
2” lift with disconnecting sway bars and tires and you’ll go as far/further than a stock rubicon.
I love the "in most scenarios" argument. In most scenarios a gladiator wont take you anywhere a subaru cant either as most scenarios are the grass on the side of your driveway or a dirt road.
I agree, if you need lockers you’re probably past what the average person is willing to tackle. And if you’re in that scenario with a stock Rubi, you’re probably getting stuck anyway
If you say almost nobody’s using the lockers on them you must not hang around with people that go off road, I have a Mojave and I’ve used the lockers quite a bit two weeks ago. I was in an off-road park with about 50 other chips and I’m guessing some of them were using the lockers also.More or less, yes.
The suspension and frame reinforcement on the Mojave is better than the Rubicon. The option for the diesel and the 4:1 TC is better on the Rubicon.
The rubicon makes more sense for people wanting to upgrade the suspension, as you aren't investing so much cash into he stock Fox bypass setup.
Honestly though, almost no one in the market uses even the rear locker on either model. People are getting them for the overall looks and trim level. Enthusiasts are such a small portion of the market, despite how important we think we are
mmm. Idk about this. I used mine before even having 3500 miles on it….Honestly though, almost no one in the market uses even the rear locker on either model. People are getting them for the overall looks and trim level. Enthusiasts are such a small portion of the market, despite how important we think we are
Ooo take my money. But dont forget a 2-Lo option. I have a conversion in my TJ and use it all the time when just wanting to craw slowly looking for elk, or pulling logs across my lawn. It comes in handy a lot. Not sure why its not a thing……. sharp turns and 4-Lo doesnt always work well.A JTRD with the Xtreme Recon package. 2" lift, 4.56 gears, 37" tires, and bead lock rims. A 3 speed transfer case. 1 to 1 hi range, 2.73 to 1 mid range, and a 4 to 1 low range.?
It's almost like you didn't even read my comment....
"Exactly, we are the enthusiasts. We use the lockers, etc. But, we are such a minor component of the vast majority of people buying Jeeps. That was the point. Most people are buying Rubicons and Mojave because they "look cool", are the "top trim level", etc.
