How far is your JT making it up this hill?

[Jefe1018]

A delete and a tune would go a long way? Ypu ever drove a ecodiesel thats been deleted and tuned?

I haven’t, I’m sure it stout. However for most people that is out of reach and regardless of where you live, against EPA laws. I still don’t see how it would fix the issue with lack of horsepower and getting those wheels spinning fast.

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[Koolcarguy]

I haven’t, I’m sure it stout. However for most people that is out of reach and regardless of where you live, against EPA laws. I still don’t see how it would fix the issue with lack of horsepower and getting those wheels spinning fast.

Well I've seen deleted ecodiesels tuned with a 60 hp tune I hear it makes a difference

 

[bleda2002]

I'm thinking I'll make it in my gasser on the beadlocks, but would be super easy in the wifes 4xe jl. This is all about that launch and being able to shut off traction control to keep it full blast throttle. Neither the banana or the morvair have a ton of horsepower(they dyno'd them a long time ago) especially on the 40s they run, so it's just rough to get any real speed to keep the momentum up and not digging.

Bronco was a prime example, shut off the traction control, nail the gas, and hold on.

 

[Jefe1018]

I'm thinking I'll make it in my gasser on the beadlocks, but would be super easy in the wifes 4xe jl. This is all about that launch and being able to shut off traction control to keep it full blast throttle. Neither the banana or the morvair have a ton of horsepower(they dyno'd them a long time ago) especially on the 40s they run, so it's just rough to get any real speed to keep the momentum up and not digging.

Bronco was a prime example, shut off the traction control, nail the gas, and hold on.

It’ll also depend on the time of year and day too. That sand, I can attest from experience, turns into silt with 100+ degree days.

 

[Escape.idiocracy]

As a diesel owner, and enthusiast…. Diesel would have like 2 chances at most before it derates from heat….. ???

 

[mlmurrah]

The MORR guys are expert offroaders and have outstanding equipment. I am not sure I could do better in my stock Gladiator Rubicon. The Banana made it up finally and did so several episodes ago.

What surprised me was the Bronco, which made it on the first try. What is their secret?

Can someone tell me what the Morvair is? Is it a Corvair wagon?

 

[AustinL911]

The MORR guys are expert offroaders and have outstanding equipment. I am not sure I could do better in my stock Gladiator Rubicon. The Banana made it up finally and did so several episodes ago.

What surprised me was the Bronco, which made it on the first try. What is their secret?

Can someone tell me what the Morvair is? Is it a Corvair wagon?

I'm a bit on the fence when it comes to labeling them experts. Granted, they spend a LOT of time off road, but Matt often goes woefully unprepared IMO; negligently so. Perhaps this is all for views, but I can't help but think that he seems very ill-prepared for something that is his business. But then again, YT also sems to be his business now, and feigned drama brings in views, so perhaps I'm the schmuck. Regardless, I still like them and watch them, and they always seem to manage somehow.

As I said earlier, HP and wheel speed over torque in that situation which is why I think the Bronco excelled. Again, IMO. All the torque is doing is digging them into a hole.

The Morrvair is just a Corvair wagon. That family seems to have a thing for corvairs.

 

[Stan H]

My default answer wants to be that it wouldn't because I wouldn't go down it to begin with. Before this video I really thought I'd be okay going up, but the torque band being low in the diesel has me thinking that a properly geared Gasser Rubicon or Mojave could do this quite easily and could winch me up the rest of the way. :D

There is zero power from that Porsche. It literally is not helping at all. I am of the opinion that my Gladiator gasser 3.6 could make that hill. I have went up some crazy crazy crap before several times.

 

[Stan H]

What surprised me was the Bronco, which made it on the first try. What is their secret?

Lack of power ..lol

 

[Jefe1018]

There is zero power from that Porsche. It literally is not helping at all. I am of the opinion that my Gladiator gasser 3.6 could make that hill. I have went up some crazy crazy crap before several times.

Absolutely, the pentastar has good power, just high up in the rev range. I don't think I'd go down that on purpose though.

 

[cug]

They completely ruined the track with the wrecker going first and without lockers. Digging massive holes where the other cars nearly got swallowed whole.

When the Bronco did the run, these had been at least partially smoothed out.

On top of that these guys do nearly everything with speed, power, and spinning wheels. It looks so much better this way. I don’t claim that I would make it up there, very likely not with the Alu-Cab on the rear, but I generally get out of sand by going slow and steady. Like this:



Granted, I don’t know how Big Red compares to this hill, but you see so many there getting stuck as well going fast, with there being a massive run up, that it makes me think it’s a similar problem. Testosterone only seeing “we need more power” and all they are doing is bouncing and digging themselves in faster.

It certainly feels like the MORR crew went at this rather naively. And then got themselves into shit with the wrecker wrecking (pun intended) the trail and they basically only seeing the option of “more power”. Again, I don’t claim I could make it, but their attempts showed that spinning wheels up that hill was a bad idea.

 

[TwelveGaugeSage]

Granted, I don’t know how Big Red compares to this hill, but you see so many there getting stuck as well going fast, with there being a massive run up, that it makes me think it’s a similar problem. Testosterone only seeing “we need more power” and all they are doing is bouncing and digging themselves in faster.

It certainly feels like the MORR crew went at this rather naively. And then got themselves into shit with the wrecker wrecking (pun intended) the trail and they basically only seeing the option of “more power”. Again, I don’t claim I could make it, but their attempts showed that spinning wheels up that hill was a bad idea.

Sand is absolutely NOT my element, but there is a reason that "crawl ratio" is a thing. I would like to see how mine would do in 4-low 1st with the lockers engaged, just ride the brake all the way up.

 

[cug]

When the Bronco did the run, these had been at least partially smoothed out.

On top of that these guys do nearly everything with speed, power, and spinning wheels. It looks so much better this way. I don’t claim that I would make it up there, very likely not with the Alu-Cab on the rear, but I generally get out of sand by going slow and steady

LOL, today's video confirmed what I said about the Bronco and the track being smoothed out by vehicles before that attempt (plus the info that the Bronco ran eight PSI pressure).

It also confirmed what I said about the wrecker ruining it for the rest of the vehicles. It actually made it with finally really lowered tire pressure (5 PSI) and then mostly steadily chugging along (at least for the top part of the trail, would have likely worked for the bottom as well).

What I like about MORR is that they are always able to improvise. What I don't like about them is that they don't take care of their equipment very well. Long time ago I used to own a company that did tons of improvising, using gear not designed for the task at hand, modifying it, breaking it on site – but we ALWAYS put it back into good shape when we got back to our shop. That's what MORR just doesn't do well. I can't count how often I heard Matt say "oh yeah, we broke that xx days ago and haven't fixed it yet". While they might be busy, for me, taking care that the equipment I rely on, is in good condition, is part of the business. They are basically winging it too often and with neglected gear. One day somebody will pay for that. Hopefully not with any serious injury or so.

 

[Stan H]

They completely ruined the track with the wrecker going first and without lockers. Digging massive holes where the other cars nearly got swallowed whole.

When the Bronco did the run, these had been at least partially smoothed out.

On top of that these guys do nearly everything with speed, power, and spinning wheels. It looks so much better this way. I don’t claim that I would make it up there, very likely not with the Alu-Cab on the rear, but I generally get out of sand by going slow and steady. Like this:



Granted, I don’t know how Big Red compares to this hill, but you see so many there getting stuck as well going fast, with there being a massive run up, that it makes me think it’s a similar problem. Testosterone only seeing “we need more power” and all they are doing is bouncing and digging themselves in faster.

It certainly feels like the MORR crew went at this rather naively. And then got themselves into shit with the wrecker wrecking (pun intended) the trail and they basically only seeing the option of “more power”. Again, I don’t claim I could make it, but their attempts showed that spinning wheels up that hill was a bad idea.

Oh Lordy,please don't tell me something is wrong with my testosterone levels..or is my Size 14 flat romping that Peddle . Get out the way ..I'm fixing to romp on it..

 

[Stan H]

Sand is absolutely NOT my element, but there is a reason that "crawl ratio" is a thing. I would like to see how mine would do in 4-low 1st with the lockers engaged, just ride the brake all the way up.

No no brake peddle lots and lots of gas peddle ?

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