Just because it didn't fail doesn't mean it won't. Open hooks are inferior and less safe period. Better than nothing? Of course. Good enough...usually? Yep, until it isn't.
Exactly. Can't handle the angular "made by a blacksmith" look of most aftermarket bumpers.
I've sort of thought about running pins through the hooks so a rope can't slip or fly off of them.
Go to a big site like extremeterrain .com, etc and you’ll see countless like that. I could copy and paste links of examples for like an hr.
You could spend an hr on extreme terrain looking for 1. The entire 32 on the 1st page are integrated. There's a non-winch bumper on the 2nd page but that doesn't fit your description either unless you buy a winch plate and start cutting holes in your new bumper because you bought the wrong 1. Again even there I don't see any. You say countless, you say MOST don't. I've proven that incorrect and you still haven't shown 1 example that isn't mopar or 1 of the knock offs like mp concepts ? Not trying to argue it, I'd like to see if such a thing exists outside of the Mopar lie of "winch ready". It's crazy to me that so many people are so entrenched in that lie they think it's normal. It isn't period. If it's a winch bumper you shouldn't have to buy anything that doesn't come in the box with the winch to install it and use it.
According to their site it's included with the bumper. Yes they are one of the few that use a separate winch plate from the bumper, but they aren't selling you a winch bumper you can't mount a winch to. That is a Jeep thing and it's shady at best. People should stop defending the lie and trying to pretend it's normal. That's like selling you steel wheels and saying they're beadlock ready... after you weld on mounting rings, buy Beadlock rings, etc.
I’m perplexed as to what you're looking at. You must have manipulated the search results with filters, which would be easy to do when they offer literally hundreds of bumpers.
So copying the Mopar bumper to the point the end caps bolt up doesn't make it a knockoff because they used aluminum for their knockoff? Even with that 1 example they INCLUDE a winch plate. Now I'm filtering searches that I posted and you can look at the link and see there are no filters or just go to extreme terrain and click on JL front bumpers and see the exact same thing I posted? The only other example anyone posted from lod also includes the plate. Only Jeep is selling you a winch bumper you can't install a winch on. You're only responding to tell me it's not true with the same 0 evidence you stated with. You said most winch bumpers aren't actually ready for a winch to be installed, obviously wrong, but I asked for 1 example and still nothing. It is a Jeep thing. Even the Amazon knockoffs of the Mopar design include the winch plate. I've literally tried searching and can't find 1 winch bumper you need extra parts to install a winch on. That was my original point. Yes there are some that are multi-piece but they include the plate.
