Installed Tazer, battery died

[Frenzyrider]

I have had Tazer on my JTR for around 3 years now and I have always updated the firmware every 6 months. It is now on 11.4.5 as .6 is more for manual updates. It is Tazer Mini and not Lite.

With that low mileage and likely no battery maintenance prior to your purchase, it is likely the battery or batteries. My aux survived 3.5 years and I recently replaced it and also replaced my main with an Odyssey.

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[ShadowsPapa]

“No additional maintenance” with ESS?
yea…no wear on the starter…

You've not paid attention.......... these starters are not your father's starters. They help mitigate wear with the tracking of piston location, last firing of each injector and so on. A cold start is far more hard on a starter.
These starters also use totally different commutator and brush material as well as bearings.
I've posted engineering info on these things in the past.
There isn't added maintenance. There's people with more miles on these starters than the starters of the 80s used to go.
I'm a former tech myself, who still does starter and alternator work.

 

[GWolgamott]

You've not paid attention.......... these starters are not your father's starters. They help mitigate wear with the tracking of piston location, last firing of each injector and so on. A cold start is far more hard on a starter.
These starters also use totally different commutator and brush material as well as bearings.
I've posted engineering info on these things in the past.
There isn't added maintenance. There's people with more miles on these starters than the starters of the 80s used to go.
I'm a former tech myself, who still does starter and alternator work.

To be honest...You know I must have been a child last time I remember someone changing a starter.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Doubtful there is much wear and tear. I'd imagine that they are designed for them.

I've posted details about how these are MADE FOR this sort of thing - ESS - along with totally different engine bearing designs and materials and so on.
I've posted it several times, but people keep starting new arguments on it and I'm tired of reposting the same facts dozens and dozens of times because they are ignorant of facts and believe all of the "I hate xxxxx" posts and web sites they see.

To be honest...You know I must have been a child last time I remember someone changing a starter.

It's rare these days. Sure, things happen - out of every 100,000 of a given part, there's going to be something go wrong - and someone will then point to that and say, see, I told you, it's bad!" instead of critical thinking showing them that sure, sometimes things made by men and women do break. That doesn't mean it's a trend or common.

The starter - ORIGINAL starter - on the 4.0 I transplanted into my car went over 130,000 miles before going weak because the CARBON BRUSHES wore.
And of those 130,000 miles, 100,000 of those were by the owner of the Grand Cherokee the engine came from which had obviously been ABUSED.
When I pulled the engine, put it on my stand to do a rebuild, I pulled the oil drain plug and watched black molasses slowly run out. The distributor drive gears were TOAST, I mean 1/4 eaten away. That just never happens on a 4.0 - in fact, of all of my years as a mechanic and the hundreds and hundreds of AMCs and Jeeps I worked on over the years, I'd never seen such wear. So you can imagine what that starter went through by the original owner.
I would bet that the starter could have gone almost 200,000 miles with any care given to the engine.
Fast forward to the modern starters of today - real bearings, not oil impregnated bushings, the commutator is no longer just copper, the brushes are no longer just carbon. I'd bet that a 3.6 starter, if it could be adapted to my 4.0, would go 400,000 thousand miles if not longer.
I won't get into the totally different main and rod bearing designs and materials........if people are interested, they'll find all of my posts on such things.

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