Spot on! Ethanol sucks regardless of whatever "lipstick on a pig" the government tries to sell it as.
Careful there, I was a farmer in the 1980s. There's no food vs. fuel, not a bit. If you looked at valid research, you'd find that's the case. WHO radio spent almost a whole day doing the "food vs. fuel" thing about 15 years ago - and debunked it. The only shortages are caused by politics and greedy leaders in other places. Corn SITS in piles, the problem is there's so much of it that it killed the markets so the government decides they are smart and gets involved.
Very rough LOL.
You are talking pure stuff there.
Oh, not another one of those polarizing ethanol sucks things. Good grief, like there aren't enough of those already (here and elsewhere)
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Not intended to be rude, however feel free not to participate if you feel the topic has been over discussed or is not of interest to you.
Most people don’t have the time to go back through old threads to discuss what is a new topic to them, had the op dredged up and old thread someone would be up in arms about the fact the last post was 9 months ago. Moving on!
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There's been studies back and forth as far as "environmental impact" and next year there will be another saying something different.
Correct, biased flawed studies most of them on both sides.
Fact of the matter is it takes many hrs of heavy equipment running the fields. To till soil pick rocks “yes that’s a thing picking fucking rocks, we did it by hand then tossed them
In a loader to drive them to the tree line” then plant, water, harvest, ship. Then massive amounts of power and water to process said harvest. All to dilute gas.
I’m no environmentalists I’d delete my diesel if I could.
My point is those acres of land could easily be planted into something else, however not as profitable as corn sold to ethanol plants.
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Here's the bottom line -
I've been a mechanic since before it was even a thing. I saw it come into Iowa in the late 70s/early 80s.
I've run it in everything - tractors, chain saws, trimmers, lawn mowers, cars, trucks, you name it. There's only one car I've ever had where I try to limit it and that's because of the very rare rubber hose fuel tank filler on that car. It's been ok for 190,000 miles but I'm wondering about cutting back because after all of these years (decades) and thousands of miles, I'm actually seeing an impact on that 1982 hose.
I have run it in Javelins, AMXs, Eagles, Ford trucks, Chevy trucks and countless Jeeps.
I've yet to see any damage from it.
I've done small engine repair for years - I've yet to see damage caused by ethanol. usually what happens is people see what happens when you let things SIT for months or you have moisture in the fuel and they blame the ethanol.
As I've said countless times - if it's so very bad for things - why have I never had, nor seen, any ethanol damage or problems in all of the years since it came to Iowa, and I've never worked on a car belonging to anyone where the car actually had ethanol-related problems. The only exceptions were in the early 80s when accelerator pump piston rubber swelled or the original fuel hoses had some issues. Once Tomco and others changed the makeup of those parts, and we rebuilt the carburetors, the problems went away.
120,000 miles on my 68 - no issues, over 80,000 miles on my AMX - no issues, about 100,000 miles on my current Javelin - dual quads, no issues.
I've worked on hundreds of cars, carburetors and all, and have never seen ethanol related issues.
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Here is a bottom to that bottom line. I was never a auto tech however I was a industrial tech for 13 years until I moved onto cleaner higher paying work.
I’m assuming the industry has made ample modifications to except e10 and be ok. But I’d never go as far as to say it’s GOOD for an engine.
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Careful there, I was a farmer in the 1980s. There's no food vs. fuel, not a bit. If you looked at valid research, you'd find that's the case. WHO radio spent almost a whole day doing the "food vs. fuel" thing about 15 years ago - and debunked it. The only shortages are caused by politics and greedy leaders in other places. Corn SITS in piles, the problem is there's so much of it that it killed the markets so the government decides they are smart and gets involved.
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I used to farm as well, we milked 330 a day on average depending on how many springers how many dry and so on. I’m not saying food vs fuel I’m saying there is an intentional over planting of corn to give leverage and begging power to the farmer. Here is a solution to having to much corn, PLANT LESS ?.
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