Jeep in Contrast to Other “Car Culture”

[ShadowsPapa]

It's not just a Jeep, it's a truck, too - I haul stuff.

I can tow things, haul things, go places, rescue others...........and it if breaks, I can fix it.

Can't sleep in the back of your sports car (well, maybe you can, but doesn't your neck hurt a bit in the morning?)

I can pull dead cars onto trailers (snatch block shackled to the front of the trailer, rope from my winch going through and back to the car)

And some day, they'll be handy for getting away from the t-rex apocalypse. (Jurassic Park certified?)

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[PuddleJumper]

The last three vehicles I owned, in descending order, are: 2023 Subaru WRX, 2020 Alfa Romeo Giulia, 2015 BMW 535i. Being a member of those forums… what a difference coming to Jeep!

Besides the obvious differences of discussing “sporty” vehicles to an off-road orientated pickup, it is refreshing to be a part of a community that doesn’t think their vehicle will fall apart if you look at it too hard.

Between vape hits, the WRX boys are constantly worried about proper break in (absolutely do not go over 4000rpm prior to 1000 miles; immediately change the oil afterwards), money shifting, never going into boost below 3000rpm or WOT in high gear, and “wIlL tHiS tUnE bLoW uP mY eNgInE?” Then there are the guys with the Cobb Accessport constantly posting DAM numbers and arguing over the 1 Octane difference or if they can run ethanol to enhance engine cooling in an overbuilt, proven, mass produced Japanese motor. Also the amount of guys conversely asking if they could run regular unleaded…. Just because you can afford the payment doesn’t mean you can afford the car.

The “Alfistis” are constantly doing apologetics for the sins of Alfa past, lamenting the lack of aftermarket support, and then getting super technical into the oil analysis and being sure to differentiate the multiair used in the Giorgio platform versus the Jeep. At least three new threads a day seemed to be started arguing oil weight versus climate and longevity/performance.

The BMW guys were actually pretty chill comparatively, but still lots of discussion regarding the much more technical aspects of how to squeeze just a little more power and reliability out of the Bosch parts saturating the engines.

Now… coming here…. There is relatively little super technical discussion (I’m talking compression ratios and all the other stuff that comes with boosted gas engines) and virtually no one talks about engine break or argues over how to best baby these rigs. The general consensus seems to be, “it doesn’t matter what you do so long as you’re doing something and having fun.” Don’t get me wrong, there is a lot of technical knowledge on here, but people’s focus seems primarily focused on pure function as opposed to super technical details.

I’m just saying… it’s a nice change of pace from the previous forums I’ve been on as someone who appreciates the different aspects of “car culture.”

Thanks guys!

I mean, lifes to short to not run the crap out of this thing. If it does somehow blow up, v8 swap excuse. Its not like I'm trying to have a pristine showroom model for 50 years in the future when this thing is relic. This truck will be one owner and done. Factory, me , graveyard. that order. How long it takes to it or I get there is up to it and/or my overconfidence.

 

[Koolcarguy]

The last three vehicles I owned, in descending order, are: 2023 Subaru WRX, 2020 Alfa Romeo Giulia, 2015 BMW 535i. Being a member of those forums… what a difference coming to Jeep!

Besides the obvious differences of discussing “sporty” vehicles to an off-road orientated pickup, it is refreshing to be a part of a community that doesn’t think their vehicle will fall apart if you look at it too hard.

Between vape hits, the WRX boys are constantly worried about proper break in (absolutely do not go over 4000rpm prior to 1000 miles; immediately change the oil afterwards), money shifting, never going into boost below 3000rpm or WOT in high gear, and “wIlL tHiS tUnE bLoW uP mY eNgInE?” Then there are the guys with the Cobb Accessport constantly posting DAM numbers and arguing over the 1 Octane difference or if they can run ethanol to enhance engine cooling in an overbuilt, proven, mass produced Japanese motor. Also the amount of guys conversely asking if they could run regular unleaded…. Just because you can afford the payment doesn’t mean you can afford the car.

The “Alfistis” are constantly doing apologetics for the sins of Alfa past, lamenting the lack of aftermarket support, and then getting super technical into the oil analysis and being sure to differentiate the multiair used in the Giorgio platform versus the Jeep. At least three new threads a day seemed to be started arguing oil weight versus climate and longevity/performance.

The BMW guys were actually pretty chill comparatively, but still lots of discussion regarding the much more technical aspects of how to squeeze just a little more power and reliability out of the Bosch parts saturating the engines.

Now… coming here…. There is relatively little super technical discussion (I’m talking compression ratios and all the other stuff that comes with boosted gas engines) and virtually no one talks about engine break or argues over how to best baby these rigs. The general consensus seems to be, “it doesn’t matter what you do so long as you’re doing something and having fun.” Don’t get me wrong, there is a lot of technical knowledge on here, but people’s focus seems primarily focused on pure function as opposed to super technical details.

I’m just saying… it’s a nice change of pace from the previous forums I’ve been on as someone who appreciates the different aspects of “car culture.”

Thanks guys!

Welcome to the forum! We get some haters here to not many and usually guy's that should be driving a Subaru ??? congratulations on the Jt and enjoy

 

[NOTJeepBeerSleep]

Maybe not the most - but with oak, maybe most expensive?

how did you mount that propane tank to your bed?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

how did you mount that propane tank to your bed?

And that's a heavy beast even when empty!
Air bags with max tow springs.
Amazing the range I can get with 800 gallons of LP on board - but then the MPG sucks with that weight. Maybe if I unloaded the plywood..........

BTW - comment on depending on timing - at the time I bought my last load of oak 3/4" plywood, I figured the load was over $220 for those 3 sheets.
Thankfully, I'm done with that and prices have moderated on building materials - at least somewhat. Last batch of dimensional lumber I bought was actually cheaper than it was a year or so ago.

 

[Lexicus]

Coming from a WRX I fully support the just have fun mentality!

 

[Redleg37]

Other than Jeep forums my favorite was for my 02 corvette.

Corvette forum has the engineers who built it posting regularly to answer questions. Pretty cool.

 

[BUZZHEAD]

THE MEANING OF JEEP LIFE IN THIRTEEN WORDS
INSIDE EVERY OLDER PERSON IS A YOUNGER PERSON WONDERING WHAT THE UCK HAPPENED

 

[AmishMike]

@Marmaduke Welcome! We are all just the 'jolliest bunch of a$$holes this side of the nuthouse'.
About the only thing that doesn't last around here are snowflakes.
I came from hot rods and customs. I know all about purists and elitists. Now I run some lower end British cars - MG and Triumphs. Those guys are really helpful. Man, I thought I was cheap, they will buy a used part for $5 plus $3 shipping instead of a new one delivered for $10. Nothing to do with quality, it is all about the $2.
Watch out for the self proclaimed experts here. No matter what their reaction scores are......

 

[cranbiz]

We're running minivan engines. And as long as its reliable, I'm okay with that.

I prefer to think that the mini vans are running Jeep engines.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I prefer to think that the mini vans are running Jeep engines.

If you consider the 3.0 Pentastar, it was first used in Jeeps - GC and Wrangler
If you consider the 3.2 - Jeep Cherokee
And finally, the 3.6 - 2011 Grand Cherokee - a jeep
Yeah, it was in other vehicles as well, but hardly a minivan engine.
They all went into jeeps first years of their production.

 

[djthumper]

Welcome! Enjoy your JT.

 

[GeneralMaximus]

If you consider the 3.0 Pentastar, it was first used in Jeeps - GC and Wrangler
If you consider the 3.2 - Jeep Cherokee
And finally, the 3.6 - 2011 Grand Cherokee - a jeep
Yeah, it was in other vehicles as well, but hardly a minivan engine.
They all went into jeeps first years of their production.

I don't know about the history, but I do know the current Chrysler minivan has a 3.6L Pentastar. Yup, we got a minivan engine.

 

[Chestnut]

The secret to being a happy WRX owner, 12 year happy owner here, is never going on a single WRX forum and jut enjoy the car, preferably in stock form. Funny part is with the little bit of weight reduction i did my WRX has more payload than my jeep.... let that sink in.

I don't offroad like most on this site. My pickup needs are mostly lumber/log transport related. like this 3,200lb white oak log.

I figured the load was over $220 for those 3 sheets.

Are we going for most expensive timber related payload? Had about 250 BF of mixed hardwood here. Sadly this had me almost to max payload. I estimate that load was 950 lbs.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The secret to being a happy WRX owner, 12 year happy owner here, is never going on a single WRX forum and jut enjoy the car, preferably in stock form. Funny part is with the little bit of weight reduction i did my WRX has more payload than my jeep.... let that sink in.

I don't offroad like most on this site. My pickup needs are mostly lumber/log transport related. like this 3,200lb white oak log.

Are we going for most expensive timber related payload? Had about 250 BF of mixed hardwood here. Sadly this had me almost to max payload. I estimate that load was 950 lbs.

May as well award that trophy now. No use trying! LOL
I go into the lumber area at Woodsmith store and just dream and run my hands over the lumber there - wow.

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