JEEP SEATS - UGG!

[ShadowsPapa]

Another recommendation for these. They saved my back and legs. Don't forget to add a dead pedal for added comfort.

FIXED FRONT SEAT JACKERS - JEEP - 2018 WRANGLER TO 2021 WRANGLER JL, JLU, & GLADIATOR – Desert Does It

The dead pedal is a big plus for ergonomics.
Two places I worked at, if someone working at a desk, in an office or cubicle, requested a foot stool, they were to be given a foot stool. Of course they were slanted at a specific angle and wide enough for both feet. It helped hips and pelvis in general, keeping legs and feet at a better angle.
The first company was PFG, and although I was an electrician and network person, when we were caught up on work orders, we were to help the furniture people on builds and deliveries, office setups and so on - and we had to take classes on ergonomics.
Sadly I've forgotten many of those points, I guess use it or lose it, but I do recall that part for some reason. Driving my wife's JLU for over 1,000 miles in a few hours, with no dead pedal, compared to driving my JT with dead pedal for the same trips, I am going to get one for her JLU, no question. I may get a nicer one for mine and put mine in her Jeep but one way or another.
Nice thing about the WJ and certain other Jeeps - it was build in as part of the floor.

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[ecidiego]

.75" seat jackers fixed me up.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Gee, for $100, I could mill something from steel. Not sure I like threading bolts into aluminum to hold the seats down.

How are washers going to make the brackets not sit right on the floor and cause "instability"?
Anything, even these aluminum parts, lift the front of the seat and not the rear, so isn't that changing the angle at which the rear meets the floor? Really think that the bolts pulling down on the seat mounts isn't going to secure it against washers? Clamping force. Try some plastigage on the surfaces and I bet if properly torqued, it's flatted pretty unformly.

There's always tolerances and to suggest that the seat brackets always meets the floor profile perfectly and is never tweaked when the bolt is tightened...................
If a block under just one end of the seat, front or rear, doesn't impact fit, then washers of lesser height isn't going to. It will add to the shear forces and leverage on the bolts.
The fact that you can bolt these "seat jackers" or whatever to the floor with one bolt and then bolt the seat to that aluminum part in a different hole - and say there's no distortion at all?

 

[staying_tuned]

Ditto on the seat jackers. After I installed a pair of the fixed 1.25" on my side, my wife sat on my seat and said to install some for her on her side immediately hehe. We've got 50k on the truck and they help tremendously. It went from having to walk around every few hundred miles on cross-country trips purely for the sake of relieving strain to stopping for bathroom & food breaks only. I can't remember the last time we stopped purely because we needed a break from the seats like before.

A little tweak goes a long way though, I'm a 34" inseam but decided I knew better and opted for the taller fixed versions despite them recommending the shorties for 34". I really like mine but after installing her shorty .75" versions on her side, I regret not getting the smaller ones. If you're in the middle of the inseam recommendations (below), I'd suggest trying the shorties first.

 

[bleda2002]

Maybe the new power seats as announced (so far) for the 2024 Wrangler will solve all of our comfort problems.

I like the seat jackers but my wife hates them. It’s not a flexible solution.

In a very unscientific environment I spent a few minutes in the 2024 wrangler with the new seats and they are definitely more comfortable. Now would I still like them 3 hours later is yet to be seen, but the foam is a little softer on the seat bottom and a little more cushioning was my impression

 

[troverman]

...And yeah, coming from a 2017 Grand Cherokee and a 2018 Silverado, the Gladiator Overland and Wrangler Sport seats are garbage in my experience.

Seat comfort is subjective and will vary between a person's height, weight, and any possible health issues. I'm 6'5" and find the Overland seats to be reasonably comfortable. Yes, my head hits the soundbar unless I recline the seat somewhat. I thought I would need the quadratech rails to move the seat back and provide more legroom, but I've grown accustomed to the stock arrangement and it seems fine. I have a Range Rover and a Ford F-350 crew cab as well, yet I find these seats to be reasonably comfortable. When we go snowmobiling in my buddy's 2020 Silverado, I find those seats to be uncomfortable. He thinks they are great. To each their own.

 

[Lunentucker]

I'm curious as to how it makes them unsafe since you have the same seat bolted to the same spot on the floor, and the washers would be roughly the same footprint of the seat bracket on the floor.
Are you referring to the exposed shank of bolt and possible shear?
I could see that as about the only possibility. If the "seat jackers" bolt to the floor, then the seat bolts to them, you have only very short bolt shanks exposed to shear.
Asking since I don't have the seat jackers.
I saw aluminum blocks mentioned - don't think I'd rely on anything threaded into aluminum if that was the idea.

Anyway, I really came back to ask, and not in any mocking way or "how can that be because I think they are fine" thing. (although they are fine for me even driving 20 hours straight)
I'm just curious where the problem is for some, what makes them better once people who have problems with these seats find a solution, and is raising the front of the seat really a way to make them more comfortable?
I've got bad back issues and hip and knee issues at times, and although I have no complaints about these seats - it might be interesting to try to see what others are feeling and seeing with them. "seats are fine" doesn't mean perfect, or "can't be better" so I find this interesting.

I really wish power seats was an option, at least as a driver's seat, especially for my wife since she can't operate the front lever to slide the seat forward or rearward.

The seat jackers match the full mating surfaces perfectly and are solid units. They move the new bolt location to keep the geometry correct. They also come with longer bolts to insure full thread engagement.
A "stack of washers" simply isn't going to be as strong and will alter the geometry. Might be strong enough. Might not be.

I actually tried washers and other things that I already had lying around. They didn't leave me feeling good about it, so I ordered the jackers.

 

[BAT]

If ya need more cushion we use these on kayaks when out all day and they make a huge difference

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[Rocksalt]

I stand corrected that the seat jackers are not steel. Most wheels are not steel. thw seat jackers are specifically manufactured for each vehicle... still dont recommend washers

 

[Lunentucker]

I stand corrected that the seat jackers are not steel. Most wheels are not steel. thw seat jackers are specifically manufactured for each vehicle... still dont recommend washers

That aircraft aluminum sounds like something they could use to make planes lighter and yet still strong.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

That aircraft aluminum sounds like something they could to make planes lighter and yet still strong.

In this case, a marketing term. Aircraft aluminum - the stuff airframes are made of, is normally 7075.
6061 is often called aircraft aluminum but......... it's not as tough or strong as 7075.
6061 also is not mentioned in metals sites regarding aircraft aluminum. You'll usually find it in truck bodies.
Marketing.

 

[SD Rider]

In this case, a marketing term. Aircraft aluminum - the stuff airframes are made of, is normally 7075.
6061 is often called aircraft aluminum but......... it's not as tough or strong as 7075.
6061 also is not mentioned in metals sites regarding aircraft aluminum. You'll usually find it in truck bodies.
Marketing.

Actually, being a vet...6061 is used A LOT in military applications where lightweight and strength is needed in the purpose that it is applied.

Being as we use a lot of 6061, I'm not too familiar with 7075 (afloat, not air), but based on this short read; maybe because I haven't dealt with high torque with regards to AL.
https://www.metalsupermarkets.com/differences-6061-and-7075-aluminum/

I'd tend to agree, that stating that 6061 is aircraft grade would be a true statement and probably a marketing term to sway that it is "strong". I could state that foam is an aircraft application and it would be a true statement. ?

 

[StoneyBanks]

Desert Does It – Seat Jackers: Seat Slammers

So my initial purpose for this mod was because I’m tall. I didn’t like the fact that I had to ever so slightly tilt my neck forward to prevent my head from coming close to the main hoop.


The Seat Slammer package fixed several issues. First, the system is variable, (on installation), with a maximum drop of the rear portion of the seat of 2 inches, elevating the head to bar issue. Secondly, the front of the seat is elevated between ½ and ¾ of an inch…I can’t remember. Ultimately, it rotates the seat where you get what the factory positioning lacks is thigh contact / support with the seat, reduced or elimination butt and back fatigue.


An added bonus is that my right knee no longer rests on the X-fer case shift lever, which created a hotspot – pain. Now, my knee rests behind the lever while in 2wd and is a non-issue in other modes.


While new custom seats sound great, they are VERY expensive, and no longer needed. The factory leather / marine grade vinyl seats are very comfortable and a fraction of a fraction of the price.

Fast forward to about 6:30... (Seat Jacker) verson.



Seat Slammers - 2018-2023 Jeep JL, JLU & Gladiator

SEAT SLAMMER INSTALL:

Thanks for the detailed 411 and videos. I just reviewed everything with my wife and she went for it. Just ordered. We'll see how they do for her and let you know. Thanks again!

 

[Dougstdig]

Thanks for the detailed 411 and videos. I just reviewed everything with my wife and she went for it. Just ordered. We'll see how they do for her and let you know. Thanks again!

To be ready, the JT’s have a reverse torq head screw. You’ll need an appropriately sized “E-star” socket. You can pick up a rail of them at O’Reilly auto parts on the cheap. I can’t remember for sure but it’s something like a number 13 or 12. The photo below is for illustrative purposes if you are unfamiliar with them. JL’s have a torq bit. Odd that it was different on the JT’s. Check what you have before going to pick them up. When you order, you might as well give them a call to ensure you get the correct size.

 

[StoneyBanks]

Jackers (Slammers) worked out great! Just finished the install (your input was very helpful). The wife loved it at first sit! Now for the real test... a 100mi+ trip! Fingers crossed!

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