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I have had my 21' Gladiator for almost a month. I have right at 2k miles on it.
I absolutely love it. I couldn't be happier with my purchase.
I have 2 questions for you guys.
First one is about the stop/start.
So far, my gladiator has not done the stop/start cycle. Not 1 single time.
I have not pressed the override button, it just doesn't do it.
I'm glad it doesn't and I hope it never does.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Second thing I had a question about was the engine temperature.
The gladiator seems to get to operating temperature extremely fast.
My other vehicles always took a few minutes to get up to the operating temp.
The gladiator does it almost instantly.
Is there some sort of heating mechanism to get the engine up to temp very fast?
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I have had my 21' Gladiator for almost a month. I have right at 2k miles on it.
I absolutely love it. I couldn't be happier with my purchase.
I have 2 questions for you guys.
First one is about the stop/start.
So far, my gladiator has not done the stop/start cycle. Not 1 single time.
I have not pressed the override button, it just doesn't do it.
I'm glad it doesn't and I hope it never does.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Second thing I had a question about was the engine temperature.
The gladiator seems to get to operating temperature extremely fast.
My other vehicles always took a few minutes to get up to the operating temp.
The gladiator does it almost instantly.
Is there some sort of heating mechanism to get the engine up to temp very fast?
No "heating mechanism". Why would they?
It's just a typical engine with a typical cooling system. In cold weather mine takes 4 miles to reach "normal" on the cluster gauge - about 190 degrees is what I consider "warmed up". In warmer weather it will happen faster, of course.
Remember, the temp gauge on the cluster isn't indicative of the REAL temperature - that's gauges you can see in the off-road pages of the radio or on the cluster. Don't go by that gauge that simply has a pointer and no numbers.

You can scroll your cluster display to show the status of the start stop. I suggest looking in the owner manual for how to find that - can't recall the CLUSTER page number it's on but the keys on the left side of the steering wheel can scroll the display up and down and show the status of the start/stop system.
 

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So far, my gladiator has not done the stop/start cycle. Not 1 single time.
Is your a/c on all the time? That'll keep it from shutting off.
 

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Is your a/c on all the time? That'll keep it from shutting off.
Again, no it will not. Only if the cabin temperature is not down to your setting or it can't keep up in hot weather. Having AC on does not disable ESS.
I can prove that with every trip I make because mine is always on in Iowa after about mid-march.
It was 88 today, AC was on and once the cabin temp was down - the ESS worked. It doesn't stay shut down long due to the sun and heat, but it works.

I'm not sure where people are getting the "AC keeps it from working" bit but that's been covered many times here.
 

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Again, no it will not. Only if the cabin temperature is not down to your setting or it can't keep up in hot weather. Having AC on does not disable ESS.
I can prove that with every trip I make because mine is always on in Iowa after about mid-march.
It was 88 today, AC was on and once the cabin temp was down - the ESS worked. It doesn't stay shut down long due to the sun and heat, but it works.

I'm not sure where people are getting the "AC keeps it from working" bit but that's been covered many times here.
Must be an AZ thing. I don't think it's physically possible to cool the cabin down to whatever it's set at. It was a cool 110 on the drive home today.

How about "if the a/c is running?"
 

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I've got a 2021 with about 1200 miles on it now. The start/stop is inconsistent on mine. Some trips it triggers every stop and other trips it doesn't shut off at any stops. I don't think it is A/C related based on when I notice it.
 

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Consider yourself blessed on the start/stop feature.

I own two 3.6s. They both get to temp nearly before I get off my street
 
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Is your a/c on all the time? That'll keep it from shutting off.
I have seen that posted a few times, so I thought maybe so.
Saturday morning about 7am, it had just rained and was low-mid 70s outside.
I drove about 15 miles to Lowes.
The a/c was off for a few then I turned it on low heading back. Stop/start still never kicked in. I hope it stays like this.
I was never a fan of that feature on all the new cars but not much you can do.
Guess I'll just consider myself lucky.
 
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Consider yourself blessed on the start/stop feature.

I own two 3.6s. They both get to temp nearly before I get off my street
That's how my gladiator is.
My gmc Sierra would take 5x that long to get up to 190ish.
Tomorrow morning I will definitely look at the actual analog gauge in the offroad page just to see if there is a difference in the little temp needed on the left side of the center display.
 

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Make sure you are fully depressing the brake pedal. I know it sounds odd, but I can control whether the start/stop activates by lightly letting up on the brake pedal. It's very sensitive.
I am one of the unique individuals that loves to use the auto start/stop and my experience is the ac will still operate while activated.
 

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Are you wearing your seatbelt? it doesn't work if you don't.
 

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I throw the "horns" everytime I start it. Pointer finger hits the start button. . . . . . little finger hits the off button. JEEP asked me on their survey if I could change anything. YES. Let me disable this "feature" in the control panel.
 

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Must be an AZ thing. I don't think it's physically possible to cool the cabin down to whatever it's set at. It was a cool 110 on the drive home today.

How about "if the a/c is running?"
You mean if the compressor is running?
It doesn't have to be spot on 68 degrees, for example. There's a range where it will let ESS work. It probably has a +/- of a few degrees. I know it works fine even with temps in the 90s, that's where we've been a lot this summer so far. Even our spring was hot.
 

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Make sure you are fully depressing the brake pedal. I know it sounds odd, but I can control whether the start/stop activates by lightly letting up on the brake pedal. It's very sensitive.
I am one of the unique individuals that loves to use the auto start/stop and my experience is the ac will still operate while activated.
EXACTLY. If I want it to work I press the brake harder, if I see it's a stale red and about to turn green, I don't press the brake hard, just enough to prevent movement and it won't shut down.
I learned on my wife's Jeeps how to manipulate pressure on the brake pedal. Soft foot - it won't shut down. Race to the stop sign and slam on the brakes and hold 'em hard, it shuts down.
 

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I have seen that posted a few times, so I thought maybe so.
Saturday morning about 7am, it had just rained and was low-mid 70s outside.
I drove about 15 miles to Lowes.
The a/c was off for a few then I turned it on low heading back. Stop/start still never kicked in. I hope it stays like this.
I was never a fan of that feature on all the new cars but not much you can do.
Guess I'll just consider myself lucky.
Probably will be a long time where you live but some places aren't too far from it being mandatory. In fact some places have "idling laws" on the books. When the majority of all vehicles have it through attrition, as time passes, it will be normal. Jeep is far from the only company that's been doing this for a while.
Live in CA - a time will come and you won't be allowed to even have a gasoline powered vehicle.
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