Overland - I’m sure it’s been asked before (apologies in advance)

[KurtP]

Sadly you can’t get Max Tow on the Overland. I wish you could, as that would perfectly meet my needs.

well. That sucks. And let me guess? Can't add leather to the Sport S???

Fuck it. Just get a Mojave.

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[Jaxmax]

Overland is very capable, you say your not doing hard core off roading and are not doing anything to the truck other then 35" tires and a lift, that is actually doing something, espicially with the 3.73 axle ratio on the overland, only two reasons to put 35s and lift on is for off road performance or so it looks good, and I think the split among all the guys that do it is somewhere around fifty / fifty. ShadowsPapa might chime in here as he picked up a set of 33" Rubicon takeoffs and runs them on his Overland at times. You didn't mention towing, but the 35s will affect how it tows., and perception of power , Shadowspapa has pictures both ways, and getting takeoff Rubicon or Mojave tires and wheels can be as cheap as buying a set of tires. Mojave rims might be a great match as they have a bit more offset to give you the big tire look on the Overland with 33s.......Jack

 

[Jaxmax]

Kurt, causing trouble again I see, hey not everyone can handle a Mojave....LOL!

 

[Jaxmax]

I guess although Kurt is just having fun, I have to say I was looking at the Overland when I started , but tow trailers at 4-4500 lbs., and started drifting towards a Rubicon, for the 4.10 axle gearing, even though I didn't need the lockers and sway bar disconnect. Then the Mojave came out at same price point and didn't have the things I didn't need, even the rear locker I don't NEED, as I would really prefer a anti slip rear instead, better for my needs.
I never looked back, got the Mojave, and now love it,
i won't be lifting it, and as for tires if I change it will to go with a bit narrower one, same height.....Jack

 

[Gvsukids]

I guess although Kurt is just having fun, I have to say I was looking at the Overland when I started , but tow trailers at 4-4500 lbs., and started drifting towards a Rubicon, for the 4.10 axle gearing, even though I didn't need the lockers and sway bar disconnect. Then the Mojave came out at same price point and didn't have the things I didn't need, even the rear locker I don't NEED, as I would really prefer a anti slip rear instead, better for my needs.
I never looked back, got the Mojave, and now love it,
i won't be lifting it, and as for tires if I change it will to go with a bit narrower one, same height.....Jack

Are you still looking to tow 4-5000 lbs? It might be difficult with the Mojave.
Only option that can't be added on the max tow that is in the Overland, is leather.

 

[Jaxmax]

Towed the 4500 camper already not a problem, even in the hills of Pa.,other then I am used to towing with a V-8 Suburban. Mojave has everything the Maxtow has other then stiffer shocks and smaller tires, and there was no issue there. Towing 6,000 plus pounds with a small V-6 with any Gladiator, is a bit much in my view......Jack

 

[The Crusader]

Are you still looking to tow 4-5000 lbs? It might be difficult with the Mojave.
Only option that can't be added on the max tow that is in the Overland, is leather.

You can get leather and max tow on the sport s. The biggest differences are the step and body colored hard top.

 

[jurfie]

You can get leather and max tow on the sport s. The biggest differences are the step and body colored hard top.

You can get the Mopar Katskinz leather, but not the stitched leather top dash pad, steering wheel and armrests (door and centre counsel) like the Overland does. You still get the plastic dash and other bits even when optioned with leather.

 

[aldo98229]

You can get the Mopar Katskinz leather, but not the stitched leather top dash pad, steering wheel and armrests (door and centre counsel) like the Overland does. You still get the plastic dash and other bits even when optioned with leather.

Correct. Overland gets you stitched door armrests and center console, stitched top and front of the dashboard, and a fold down rear armrest with built-in cup holders.

Overland also includes unique fenders that accommodate LED turn signals*, the aforementioned side steps, and additional sound insulation. On JL, it also includes the big brake kit; I can’t speak on JT if it does or doesn’t.

*You can’t really add LED turn signals to Sport fenders; for some reason aftermarket suppliers have developed LEDs that retrofit only Overland and Rubicon/Mojave fenders.

 

[DreamedofaJeepSomeday]

Guys, I’m strongly considering an overland but the more I think about it’s lack of off-road capabilities (maybe I’m wrong?)

The Rubicon is best for rock crawling and the Mojave is best for sand at speed (plus maybe pot-holed roads up north).

In between those extremes, any of the other trim levels will do just fine off-road if you know what you are doing and don't try anything stupid. (Maybe those two are the same).

 

[Crazy Jeep]

Who are some of the users on here with overland builds that I can look at?

I have an Overland that I have built and crawl with. Only disappointment I have is lack of locker options at this time.

3.5" Metalcloak
4.88 gears
37" Tires
Full Skid Plates

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Overland is very capable, you say your not doing hard core off roading and are not doing anything to the truck other then 35" tires and a lift, that is actually doing something, espicially with the 3.73 axle ratio on the overland, only two reasons to put 35s and lift on is for off road performance or so it looks good, and I think the split among all the guys that do it is somewhere around fifty / fifty. ShadowsPapa might chime in here as he picked up a set of 33" Rubicon takeoffs and runs them on his Overland at times. You didn't mention towing, but the 35s will affect how it tows., and perception of power , Shadowspapa has pictures both ways, and getting takeoff Rubicon or Mojave tires and wheels can be as cheap as buying a set of tires. Mojave rims might be a great match as they have a bit more offset to give you the big tire look on the Overland with 33s.......Jack

Love this truck. I think I like the Overland wheels better........ but need the A/T tires in the winter.

 

[AZJT]

As many of us Overland owners have written, some of us got the Overland because of the nicer interior. I couldn't see spending significantly more on the Rubicon, considering the different interior and my not needing ALL of its capabilities. I'm not knocking the Rubicon one bit - it just wasn't for me. I liked the Overland's amenities - leather interior, upgraded sound system, larger screen and nav, etc. I know some of these are available on other models (or can be added post-purchase), I just liked the model they had on the floor at the time.

All that being said, I think you'll find the Overland more than capable - I have taken it out into different desert-based settings and have had no issues at all with hills, rocks, streams, mud, etc. Granted, none of these have been 'extreme' outings, but that's also not what I'm looking for.

I've done a few mods - 2" Rubicon Express lift/leveling kit, 35" Nittos, interior grab handles, Mopar splash guards, and a few others - and am pleased with my JT's looks, performance, and abilities. As others have said - you're getting a Jeep 4x4 nonetheless.

 

[sbach66]

Love this truck. I think I like the Overland wheels better........ but need the A/T tires in the winter.

I think I've asked this before, so apologies for repeating, how much MPG do you lose going to the 33s?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I think I've asked this before, so apologies for repeating, how much MPG do you lose going to the 33s?

VERY LITTLE.
Here's the truth of the matter related to tire sizes:
Overland stock tires = 32.2"
Rubicon Falken A/T tires = 32.8"
That's a whopping .6" difference. Big deal.
A bit over half an inch - not 1" as people keep 'suggesting'.
I believe there's about 2" difference in width, that would have some minor impact.
There's weight difference, I don't have the exact figures handy but likely only 60-80 pounds difference total, all 4 considered.
Our trip to Fort Wayne last February (gee almost a year ago already) we really didn't see much difference, but it would be hard to tell from that due to the fact it was COLD.
Seems to me we were still doing over 20 mpg at 60 mph, about 19 at 70 mph. It's more difference between summer and winter with these trucks than anything else.

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