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My shop and I cant quite figure it out either. I have a Clayton lift and there is a noticeable lean as well. @Claytonoffroad says there is not a difference in their driver / passenger springs? My shop actually told me they put a 1.5” puck on the passenger side and we are still having a lean. It’s going back in Friday.
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My shop and I cant quite figure it out either. I have a Clayton lift and there is a noticeable lean as well. @Claytonoffroad says there is not a difference in their driver / passenger springs? My shop actually told me they put a 1.5” puck on the passenger side and we are still having a lean. It’s going back in Friday.
That's odd. My Mopar lift had the lean, so this time on this new Gladiator, I went with a Clayton 2.5" Ride Right lift and there's no lean on it.
 

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That's odd. My Mopar lift had the lean, so this time on this new Gladiator, I went with a Clayton 2.5" Ride Right lift and there's no lean on it.
Crazy! None what so ever? Ground to fenders is the exact same ?
 

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Any solutions found on this? I am 1" lower on the passenger side with a 2 1/2" Clayton Overland lift.
 

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Any solutions found on this? I am 1" lower on the passenger side with a 2 1/2" Clayton Overland lift.
yep.. same man.. I was told metalcloak makes shims you can possibly put in but I haven’t messed with anything.. I have been told the OEM coils have differences (passenger coil part # is higher than driver side) @claytonoffroad is it possible this was missed when developing these coils?
 

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AEV includes a shim with their lift for this.
 

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It's normal.
I freaked too. It's because of the crown in the road and weight of driver ...
My stock sport s had it.


I've recently noticed that the passenger side of my Gladiator with 2" Mopar lift is leaning. I haven't measured it yet, but by the eyeball test it's about 3/4" to 1" of lean. Now, like any normal Jeep owner would to, I searched the internet to find answers. I found three possible answers:

1.) It leans to the right to account for the weight of the driver.
2.) It leans to the right because that's where the fuel tank is and fuel is heavy.
3.) All Jeep Wranglers/Gladiators do it, it's just more noticeable on lifted vehicles.

So I set out to figure out which one is the real answer/solution. Here's what I found:

1.) I sat in the driver's seat (I weigh 200 lbs.) - Probably took 1/4" out of the lean.
2.) Ran the fuel tank damn near empty - lean is still the same.
3.) I've seen rear end shots of many lifted Wrangler/Gladiators and the lean isn't there. Even on some with 4.5" of lift.

Does anyone else have any experience or ideas with this? Are there any real solutions out there besides putting coil spacers on one side?

Also, because I know I'll get asked - Yes, all the springs are in the correct spot. I installed the lift myself and checked the instructions about 8 times before I installed them.
 

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I've recently noticed that the passenger side of my Gladiator with 2" Mopar lift is leaning. I haven't measured it yet, but by the eyeball test it's about 3/4" to 1" of lean. Now, like any normal Jeep owner would to, I searched the internet to find answers. I found three possible answers:

1.) It leans to the right to account for the weight of the driver.
2.) It leans to the right because that's where the fuel tank is and fuel is heavy.
3.) All Jeep Wranglers/Gladiators do it, it's just more noticeable on lifted vehicles.

So I set out to figure out which one is the real answer/solution. Here's what I found:

1.) I sat in the driver's seat (I weigh 200 lbs.) - Probably took 1/4" out of the lean.
2.) Ran the fuel tank damn near empty - lean is still the same.
3.) I've seen rear end shots of many lifted Wrangler/Gladiators and the lean isn't there. Even on some with 4.5" of lift.

Does anyone else have any experience or ideas with this? Are there any real solutions out there besides putting coil spacers on one side?

Also, because I know I'll get asked - Yes, all the springs are in the correct spot. I installed the lift myself and checked the instructions about 8 times before I installed them.
Name your Jeep Ilene lol...:LOL:
 

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I have the same lean on my overland plus 2.5” kit that has been installed for a year in my JTR. What does Clayton recommend to fix this lean? It’s not an insignificant amount.
 

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I have the same lean on my overland plus 2.5” kit that has been installed for a year in my JTR. What does Clayton recommend to fix this lean? It’s not an insignificant amount.
Hello, if you're having an issue with your vehicle leaning, definitely get in contact with us as we can work with you to correct the issue. Step one would be unbolting the shocks and sway bar end links, cycling the suspension, and then checking to see if the lean has gone away. This is the most common cause of lean and is easily remedied. There is about 1/2" of lean from the factory which is totally normal and mostly due to a full or empty gas tank, however, any more than this is worth looking into.
 

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If you understand spring motion dynamics, you will know spring rates change ever so slightly when you introduce a bow into the spring. The direction of least effort will include an outward motion which reduces the rate ever so slightly as the spring begins to work against itself.

'Correction pads' for jeep springs is important for the deign of these springs.

Now Jeep designers did 'call out' that the spring bow was integrated to this design in a video (of the Mopar lift)... But I'm not confident I want to believe it... I think they noticed the bow once the kits were produced.

I did notice a slight pull to the right and 1/2" lean in the front of my JTRD with the stock diesel mopar lift.

Introducing a track bar (centered) and correction pads from metal cloak (for a total cost of 220 bucks) fixed the 1/2" lean (nearly all of it) and also reduced the pulling to the right on crowned roads.

Experiences seem to vary, but the above worked for me.
 
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If you understand spring motion dynamics, you will know spring rates change ever so slightly when you introduce a bow into the spring. The direction of least effort will include an outward motion which reduces the rate ever so slightly as the spring begins to work against itself.

'Correction pads' for jeep springs is important for the deign of these springs.

Now Jeep designers did 'call out' that the spring bow was integrated to this design in a video (of the Mopar lift)... But I'm not confident I want to believe it... I think they noticed the bow once the kits were produced.

I did notice a slight pull to the right and 1/2" lean in the front of my JTRD with the stock diesel mopar lift.

Introducing a track bar (centered) and correction pads from metal cloak (for a total cost of 220 bucks) fixed the 1/2" lean (nearly all of it) and also reduced the pulling to the right on crowned roads.

Experiences seem to vary, but the above worked for me.
 
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I got the lean too with this mopar lift. I went threw the mopar instructions and found out that the rear springs are switched from driver right to passenger left. Going to take it to the shop tomorrow to fix that. Im really hoping its that. My Gladiator is off about
1 deg passanger down. So with measurements its like 3/4 to 1 ". And that bothers me.
 

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Any solutions found on this? I am 1" lower on the passenger side with a 2 1/2" Clayton Overland lift.
I just installed a Clayton 3 1/2” kit on mine 2023 Gladiator rubicon and it has about 3/4” lean to passenger side ! I did not notice a lean when I purchased new about 1 month ago!
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