Service writer says "we don't recommend or do 5 tire rotations"

[Pat2Alaska]

I was concerned because there is a brace beneath the winch system for the spare that has a raised (lowered?) height. In looking at it, I expected the bracket to intentionally make the steel spare wheel make contact instead of rubber. I'd say there was about an inch to spare.

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[spazzyfry123]

Exactly! Not sure why the stud was for, though? I thought it was to align the wheel somehow, but it didn’t come close.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

These darned trucks even look good from the BOTTOM side..........

Thanks for the pics - now I know without crawling on the frozen snowy ground at -5 to see what the space looks like.

 

[MarineHawk]

These darned trucks even look good from the BOTTOM side..........

Thanks for the pics - now I know without crawling on the frozen snowy ground at -5 to see what the space looks like.

Yeah, that one looks good. Mine's only four months old and already looks like this:

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Yeah, that one looks good. Mine's only four months old and already looks like this:

Crap - I'd be pulling that differential out of there, cleaning it up and painting it nice. I can't handle that look.
You've maybe seen the pics of the underside of my SX4 - a 1982 - the differentials and skid plates. I stripped and painted the differential, re-plated the u-bolts, powder coated the brake backing plates...... I'm going to go nuts if this new truck looks like that underneath any time soon. I guess when spring comes I'll be under it cleaning and prepping and repainting.

 

[bgenlvtex]

Yeah, that one looks good. Mine's only four months old and already looks like this:

LOL

 

[MarineHawk]

Crap - I'd be pulling that differential out of there, cleaning it up and painting it nice. I can't handle that look.
You've maybe seen the pics of the underside of my SX4 - a 1982 - the differentials and skid plates. I stripped and painted the differential, re-plated the u-bolts, powder coated the brake backing plates...... I'm going to go nuts if this new truck looks like that underneath any time soon. I guess when spring comes I'll be under it cleaning and prepping and repainting.

Dude, that's not a Jeep, let alone a Gladiator from this century. Just playing.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Dude, that's not a Jeep, let alone a Gladiator from this century. Just playing.

That transfer case looks like it's from Iowa - pitted with oxide from the salt brine.

Hey - this one isn't from this century, either - 38 years old................ this is how I hope my JT looks in that many years -

 

[Steppenwolf]

And I'm like - what did you say? We used to do that all the time with full sized spares.
He said "and the recommendation to stop doing that came out several years ago, it's not recommended"
So wanting to make sure I'm not Rip VanWinkle or something, and slept through some big notice that 5 tire rotations are bad (and that's exactly what he implied) I checked - ok, what did I miss.
Nope, Cooper, tirebuyer, tirerack, and others, still show it and still say "it's good for 4 wheel drive and all wheel drive when there's wear on the other tires and you need to use the spare"
So what the heck - where's this guy getting "we don't do that" and "it's not recommended and hasn't been for years" bit??
When he said that I thought - good grief, why, what's the harm? It's GOOD, IMO - you use 5 tires over their age, not 4, you keep wear of the spare the same as the others for LIMITED SLIP differentials and others, and - what could it possibly hurt?

Other than the extra labor and them not wanting to do it for the flat rate tire rotation charge - what possible logic could there by for not doing it?

I have a matching Overland rim and plan on doing it when I get them swapped (he said it would cost $40 for them to swap rims on my JT, put the spare on the new wheel.)
Oh, he also said "but is it the SAME SIZE rim" - I felt like DUH - I told him twice it was a matching rim from a JT OVerland,
And again he said - but is it the same size? I wanted to say "YES, DAMN IT - it's off another JT OVERLAND - what the hell size WOULD it be?" but didn't.

The 5-tire rotation thing is only done on Rubis, not Overlands ...

Ya shoulda got a Rubi, see?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The 5-tire rotation thing is only done on Rubis, not Overlands ...

Ya shoulda got a Rubi, see?

Yeah, right - he didn't even know it was overland until I told him.
We all know Rubicon people don't give a rip about spares or rotations - the only rotation they like is when it's climbing up a river bank - then they hope the tires rotate, not the whole jeep HAHA

Mine will be part Rubicon when done - Rubicon wheels and tires on it now, Rubicon shocks and other pieces coming soon.......

 

[KAT$JT]

I was having the 5-tire-rotation conversation with a coworker; he stated that 5 tire rotations are not recommended because the spare tire will have more tread (depending on how often you rotate) than the others. So with every 5 tire rotation performed, a larger diameter tire than the other three would always be added in, putting more stress on the diff.

What are the thoughts here on that? Would there be enough of a tread difference with 5,000 miles between rotations to cause problems? I have all five matching wheels & tires, but I don't want to do the five tire rotation if it'll cause issues.

 

[Gatorized]

I was having the 5-tire-rotation conversation with a coworker; he stated that 5 tire rotations are not recommended because the spare tire will have more tread (depending on how often you rotate) than the others. So with every 5 tire rotation performed, a larger diameter tire than the other three would always be added in, putting more stress on the diff.

What are the thoughts here on that? Would there be enough of a tread difference with 5,000 miles between rotations to cause problems? I have all five matching wheels & tires, but I don't want to do the five tire rotation if it'll cause issues.

No issues.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I was having the 5-tire-rotation conversation with a coworker; he stated that 5 tire rotations are not recommended because the spare tire will have more tread (depending on how often you rotate) than the others. So with every 5 tire rotation performed, a larger diameter tire than the other three would always be added in, putting more stress on the diff.

What are the thoughts here on that? Would there be enough of a tread difference with 5,000 miles between rotations to cause problems? I have all five matching wheels & tires, but I don't want to do the five tire rotation if it'll cause issues.

Did you see my earlier post where I quoted Cooper and others, as well as a page out of the Jeep OWNER MANUAL that stated to do 5 tire rotation if you have a matching tire and wheel?

There wouldn't be enough difference in size to cause even 1 full rotation difference in a mile.
There's more differences than that for every road you drive because of turns and curves.

No issues.

 

[bgenlvtex]

I was having the 5-tire-rotation conversation with a coworker; he stated that 5 tire rotations are not recommended because the spare tire will have more tread (depending on how often you rotate) than the others. So with every 5 tire rotation performed, a larger diameter tire than the other three would always be added in, putting more stress on the diff.

What are the thoughts here on that? Would there be enough of a tread difference with 5,000 miles between rotations to cause problems? I have all five matching wheels & tires, but I don't want to do the five tire rotation if it'll cause issues.

Conceivably an issue on Subaru and possibly other all wheel drive systems.

Not even a problem on a Jeep.

 

[Pat2Alaska]

I was having the 5-tire-rotation conversation with a coworker; he stated that 5 tire rotations are not recommended because the spare tire will have more tread (depending on how often you rotate) than the others. So with every 5 tire rotation performed, a larger diameter tire than the other three would always be added in, putting more stress on the diff.

What are the thoughts here on that? Would there be enough of a tread difference with 5,000 miles between rotations to cause problems? I have all five matching wheels & tires, but I don't want to do the five tire rotation if it'll cause issues.

Not enough difference to affect anything.

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