Squeaking Noise at Low Speed ??

[Political_Man]

Just an update. I'm told it was a wheel weight rubbing the caliper. I'll post back once I've driven for a bit with an update for anyone else encountering this issue.

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[BUZZHEAD]

Any chance you can tell me which dealer resolved this for you? Maybe I can get mine to call. Dealer has had it 3 separate times for more than a week each time. I got a loaner but I want mine back. Frustrating.

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[jwilson2899]

Just an update. I'm told it was a wheel weight rubbing the caliper. I'll post back once I've driven for a bit with an update for anyone else encountering this issue.

Be interesting to see if that's it, but I'm not convinced. Mine does it only the first few hundred feet of driving. If it was a wheel weight, I would expect it to contact all the time and always make the noise.

 

[ericnewcom]

I didn't read through the whole thread but had something similar on my wife's F150. I took it to two dealers which said they couldn't find the issue and everything was OK. Pressing the brake had no effect on the noise.

I put the rear axle on jack stands blocked the front tires and put it in neutral. I tried to rotate the drivers side tire by hand and got a clunk clunk and it wouldn't turn. Tried the passenger tire and it spun but had some drag. Went back to the driver side and was able to get it to spin with a lot of effort. Further inspection revealed the parking break levers the at the wheels where extremely rusted and corroded and no allowing the parking brakes to fully disengage. Keep in mind the parking brake cable moved freely and appeared to function normally.

We live in salt country Iowa bit the truck was only 3 years old at the time so the completely rusted levers was a surprise. I bought the parts and fixed it myself. It was checked a total of 3 times. Twice at the local dealer under warranty and once at another dealer out of warranty. How can two dealers say they checked the brakes and not find this?

 

[Political_Man]

Be interesting to see if that's it, but I'm not convinced. Mine does it only the first few hundred feet of driving. If it was a wheel weight, I would expect it to contact all the time and always make the noise.

You were correct. Still dealing with it. I finally gave up on the dealership and gave it to a real mechanic to find. The real mechanic still can't find it after a week. Total pain in the ass. Jeep/Mopar couldn't give a shit. I have an open ticket for this and replacing the shocks which are also an issue. They are claiming some sort of supply issue. Originally took to them Jan 3 of this year. They have no ETA on the shocks and dealership just seems to keep it for a while when it comes to the squeaks. Then they claim they fixed and then pray it doesn't do it until I'm out the door. I couldn't be more frustrated with it. It looks great, sounds like a total POS between the squeaks and the shocks clanking.

 

[BUZZHEAD]

I was told its the copper in the brake pads buy non copper pads and you wont hear it he said.
Next time at dealer I am going to tell him to change the pads.

 

[TXTEA]

Solved! On my end. (2021 4xE. ) 30k miles

exact same issue as originally posted. Only happen after sitting over a period of time.
took it to the dealer they had it 6 weeks, initial diagnosis was build up of break dust on front pads. (I told them several times the noise was from the back)picked vehicle up after 6 weeks. Noise was immediate and we ended up leaving it at the dealership for another 1 week. Second Diagnosis was “glazed” front pads (again ignoring the rear) Although the brakes are hardly ever touched because of the regenerative system is used 99.9% of the time and i cannot recall a moment we have been hard on the brakes for any reason. Furthermore, no noise was created from ever hitting the brakes and the brakes stop the vehicle easy and without excessive force. We were quoted $1200 for front brakes and rotor’s because of “glazing”. We decided to decline and take the Jeep back home since their diagnosis was not adding up.

I am a Independent mechanic who works on all manufactures all years blah blah blah. So naturally I finally and no longer worried about their warranty decided to investigate myself.


NOW FOR THE SOLUTION.
SEE PICS ATTACHED

Rear Brake Pad “retainer” or “Shims” What ever you decide the call them, were broken identical on Driver and Passenger rear. Causing the inner pads to not retract “flush” from the Rotor.
The broken piece of the “spring” portion is retained under the pad until physically removed.
Also, rear brake area was never looked at by the dealer, visible evidence showed they never even took the wheels off the back.

 

[jwilson2899]

Solved! On my end. (2021 4xE. ) 30k miles

exact same issue as originally posted. Only happen after sitting over a period of time.
took it to the dealer they had it 6 weeks, initial diagnosis was build up of break dust on front pads. (I told them several times the noise was from the back)picked vehicle up after 6 weeks. Noise was immediate and we ended up leaving it at the dealership for another 1 week. Second Diagnosis was “glazed” front pads (again ignoring the rear) Although the brakes are hardly ever touched because of the regenerative system is used 99.9% of the time and i cannot recall a moment we have been hard on the brakes for any reason. Furthermore, no noise was created from ever hitting the brakes and the brakes stop the vehicle easy and without excessive force. We were quoted $1200 for front brakes and rotor’s because of “glazing”. We decided to decline and take the Jeep back home since their diagnosis was not adding up.

I am a Independent mechanic who works on all manufactures all years blah blah blah. So naturally I finally and no longer worried about their warranty decided to investigate myself.


NOW FOR THE SOLUTION.
SEE PICS ATTACHED

Rear Brake Pad “retainer” or “Shims” What ever you decide the call them, were broken identical on Driver and Passenger rear. Causing the inner pads to not retract “flush” from the Rotor.
The broken piece of the “spring” portion is retained under the pad until physically removed.
Also, rear brake area was never looked at by the dealer, visible evidence showed they never even took the wheels off the back.

Thanks for sharing this, I will have to pull mine apart and take a look. The brakes are starting to get lower, so maybe it’s time to go ahead and put new pads and clips on anyway.

 

[Echo26]

Solved! On my end. (2021 4xE. ) 30k miles

exact same issue as originally posted. Only happen after sitting over a period of time.
took it to the dealer they had it 6 weeks, initial diagnosis was build up of break dust on front pads. (I told them several times the noise was from the back)picked vehicle up after 6 weeks. Noise was immediate and we ended up leaving it at the dealership for another 1 week. Second Diagnosis was “glazed” front pads (again ignoring the rear) Although the brakes are hardly ever touched because of the regenerative system is used 99.9% of the time and i cannot recall a moment we have been hard on the brakes for any reason. Furthermore, no noise was created from ever hitting the brakes and the brakes stop the vehicle easy and without excessive force. We were quoted $1200 for front brakes and rotor’s because of “glazing”. We decided to decline and take the Jeep back home since their diagnosis was not adding up.

I am a Independent mechanic who works on all manufactures all years blah blah blah. So naturally I finally and no longer worried about their warranty decided to investigate myself.


NOW FOR THE SOLUTION.
SEE PICS ATTACHED

Rear Brake Pad “retainer” or “Shims” What ever you decide the call them, were broken identical on Driver and Passenger rear. Causing the inner pads to not retract “flush” from the Rotor.
The broken piece of the “spring” portion is retained under the pad until physically removed.
Also, rear brake area was never looked at by the dealer, visible evidence showed they never even took the wheels off the back.

Solved! On my end. (2021 4xE. ) 30k miles

exact same issue as originally posted. Only happen after sitting over a period of time.
took it to the dealer they had it 6 weeks, initial diagnosis was build up of break dust on front pads. (I told them several times the noise was from the back)picked vehicle up after 6 weeks. Noise was immediate and we ended up leaving it at the dealership for another 1 week. Second Diagnosis was “glazed” front pads (again ignoring the rear) Although the brakes are hardly ever touched because of the regenerative system is used 99.9% of the time and i cannot recall a moment we have been hard on the brakes for any reason. Furthermore, no noise was created from ever hitting the brakes and the brakes stop the vehicle easy and without excessive force. We were quoted $1200 for front brakes and rotor’s because of “glazing”. We decided to decline and take the Jeep back home since their diagnosis was not adding up.

I am a Independent mechanic who works on all manufactures all years blah blah blah. So naturally I finally and no longer worried about their warranty decided to investigate myself.


NOW FOR THE SOLUTION.
SEE PICS ATTACHED

Rear Brake Pad “retainer” or “Shims” What ever you decide the call them, were broken identical on Driver and Passenger rear. Causing the inner pads to not retract “flush” from the Rotor.
The broken piece of the “spring” portion is retained under the pad until physically removed.
Also, rear brake area was never looked at by the dealer, visible evidence showed they never even took the wheels off the back.

Thanks for this. Did you end up taking it back to the dealership to replace that part under warranty?

 

[Political_Man]

Updates:

The frustrating:
So I took it back to the dealer. "There is nothing wrong with the brakes." The shims were NOT broken as described above. BUT, they claim they looked at the rear drums and "found scuffs relating to the parking brake" they believe was/is causing the issue. They played both sides by claiming brakes are only covered to 12k miles and sent me a "highly discounted" estimate of $1500 to replace the parking brake. But they couldn't guarantee this would resolve the issue. LOL what?!?

I responded if that doesn't resolve then Jeep should give me back my $1500 and then cover whatever is squeaking. Tear it apart if they have to. They told me "It doesn't work that way." And then went through the whole "it's a jeep thing, Jeeps just make noises sometimes."

So imagine buying a $60k Bronco and having a loud squeaking noise that grabs the attention of anyone in the parking lot and anyone inside the building next to the parking lot and Ford telling you "It's a Bronco thing. Lots of Bronco's do that." Total corporate abuse of Jeep Culture at Jeep IMO.

The promising news so far:

After I told them to pound sand on the $1500, the one thing they recommended was using the parking brake more. I live in Florida and like most Floridians, I never use the parking brake. I've driven it 5 different days since I got it back and I've used the parking brake about 50% of the time. It hasn't made the noise since I got it back.

I assume that they did some level of disassembly of the parking brake, did a little cleaning, and then put things back together as they were doing their inspection. Maybe some combination of that and me using the parking brake has tightened things up and resolved the issue. I shouldn't HAVE to use the parking brake if I don't want to but whatever... If that stops the completely infuriating, teeth rattling squeaking then its a small price to pay.

The issue was definitely intermittent so I'm expecting since I made this post that it will happen on my way home today. I'll report back here in couple of weeks either way. I'm hoping this is the end of my issue.

 

[jwilson2899]

And then went through the whole "it's a jeep thing, Jeeps just make noises sometimes."

That's ultra lazy and disappointing on their part. Jeeps don't "just make noises". Thye only do it when something isn't correct.

 

[SupermanWV]

Mine does it as well….I think it may be related to rear emergency drum brakes not releasing all the way until the rotor turns a few times and forces the brake pads away from it. Or maybe the drum brake pads are needing replaced. I have not had a chance to check this out on mine. But when I hear the noise if I pull emergency brake up a couple clicks and release it stops the noise. Also if I pull emergency brake up far enough to make contact it squeals insanely like metal on metal, when that chirp is going on.

Can anyone tell me how hard it would be to replace the drum brakes/emergency brakes in the rear rotors?

 

[Gren71]

Solved! On my end. (2021 4xE. ) 30k miles

exact same issue as originally posted. Only happen after sitting over a period of time.
took it to the dealer they had it 6 weeks, initial diagnosis was build up of break dust on front pads. (I told them several times the noise was from the back)picked vehicle up after 6 weeks. Noise was immediate and we ended up leaving it at the dealership for another 1 week. Second Diagnosis was “glazed” front pads (again ignoring the rear) Although the brakes are hardly ever touched because of the regenerative system is used 99.9% of the time and i cannot recall a moment we have been hard on the brakes for any reason. Furthermore, no noise was created from ever hitting the brakes and the brakes stop the vehicle easy and without excessive force. We were quoted $1200 for front brakes and rotor’s because of “glazing”. We decided to decline and take the Jeep back home since their diagnosis was not adding up.

I am a Independent mechanic who works on all manufactures all years blah blah blah. So naturally I finally and no longer worried about their warranty decided to investigate myself.


NOW FOR THE SOLUTION.
SEE PICS ATTACHED

Rear Brake Pad “retainer” or “Shims” What ever you decide the call them, were broken identical on Driver and Passenger rear. Causing the inner pads to not retract “flush” from the Rotor.
The broken piece of the “spring” portion is retained under the pad until physically removed.
Also, rear brake area was never looked at by the dealer, visible evidence showed they never even took the wheels off the back.

I was looking for this thread to post the exact same thing. Had the squeak, changed the pads and found the clips broken. Now with new pads/clips no more squeak.

 

[BearFootSam]

Mine is squeaking too. I found the rubber piece between the cab and bed was uneven on both sides. One had a large gap, whereas the other was touching. Still trying to get the dealer to repair and it been 2 months so far. Could be off base here, but worth checking.

Mine is out of synch a bit as well, it's either the trim or the bed is out of alignment a smidge. The latter should be fixable (by the dealer, not your problem).

I get a periodic groan going over a hump transiting between my field and driveway when I startup some times. I figure that it just one of the various bushings doing their job while the axles flex over the terrain.

 

[jac04]

... it's either the trim or the bed is out of alignment a smidge. The latter should be fixable (by the dealer, not your problem).

... or the entire cab is out of alignment.

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