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Would you buy a v-8 5.7 sport hemi for MSRP of 50,000


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If I want a Ram truck, I'll buy a Ram truck and put a Jeep grill on it.

Hope Stellantis doesn't do what GM did for years - create a car in one division (Chevy for example) and copy it panel for panel and simply put different trim on it and call it a Buick..
have you looked into the Durango / Grand Cherokee... same bird different feathers
 

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have you looked into the Durango / Grand Cherokee... same bird different feathers
Yeah, I should have specified - hope they don't do it with the Wrangler and Gladiator lines - merge it with Ram.

On the other hand - was at a 4 way stop in town a few months back - multiple makes of SUVs from all directions waiting their turn. it was nearly impossible to differentiate one make from another.. .the profiles matched up so well. You had to find the subtle differences in lights or trim.

Wrangler, and Gladiator, for now - have a more unique look although I see some copying going on here and there in some areas.
 

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Yeah, I should have specified - hope they don't do it with the Wrangler and Gladiator lines - merge it with Ram.

On the other hand - was at a 4 way stop in town a few months back - multiple makes of SUVs from all directions waiting their turn. it was nearly impossible to differentiate one make from another.. .the profiles matched up so well. You had to find the subtle differences in lights or trim.

Wrangler, and Gladiator, for now - have a more unique look although I see some copying going on here and there in some areas.
I have noticed to Design sharing in the rear between the 1500 and the JT
... side note wonder why does the Durango get the hemi but the GC is stuck with the 3.6
 

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Jeep should just do what they did with the original Gladiator pickup and source a GM V8. A 6.6 LS sounds good.
 

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Jeep should just do what they did with the original Gladiator pickup and source a GM V8. A 6.6 LS sounds good.
The "Dauntless"? That didn't happen until about 68 and only for the last years.
Otherwise it was the Tornado (I6 OHC), and then the AMC 327 V8 before the the GM 350.
So the original was.......... I6 only.
 

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If I want a Ram truck, I'll buy a Ram truck and put a Jeep grill on it.

Hope Stellantis doesn't do what GM did for years - create a car in one division (Chevy for example) and copy it panel for panel and simply put different trim on it and call it a Buick..
Already happened, remember Plymouth? Plymouth thrived until Chrysler mismanagement (happens every decade or so) caused Plymouth to become rebadged Dodges. Up through the '60s, there were very notable differences between Plymouth and Dodge, different interior pieces, wheelbase, standard equipment, etc. The Chrysler line was similar in basic style to a Plymouth, but much more upscale. Even Imperial was a completely different car, no unit body for it, although it was almost a unit body built on a full frame. Chrysler as an independent company failed when they no longer differentiated their cars. Why buy a Chrysler when a Dodge was the pretty much the same car? Same with Plymouth. If a Dodge gave you the same car, with a better name (Dodge wasn't always considered a cheap low quality car) and the price was the same, why buy the Plymouth?
 

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Already happened, remember Plymouth? Plymouth thrived until Chrysler mismanagement (happens every decade or so) caused Plymouth to become rebadged Dodges. Up through the '60s, there were very notable differences between Plymouth and Dodge, different interior pieces, wheelbase, standard equipment, etc. The Chrysler line was similar in basic style to a Plymouth, but much more upscale. Even Imperial was a completely different car, no unit body for it, although it was almost a unit body built on a full frame. Chrysler as an independent company failed when they no longer differentiated their cars. Why buy a Chrysler when a Dodge was the pretty much the same car? Same with Plymouth. If a Dodge gave you the same car, with a better name (Dodge wasn't always considered a cheap low quality car) and the price was the same, why buy the Plymouth?
They pretty much all did it - I think the omni and horizon were great examples....
 

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It will be $100k just like the 392 Wranglers, 2 years later it won't be worth sh!t. Not worth it.
 

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Already happened, remember Plymouth? Plymouth thrived until Chrysler mismanagement (happens every decade or so) caused Plymouth to become rebadged Dodges. Up through the '60s, there were very notable differences between Plymouth and Dodge, different interior pieces, wheelbase, standard equipment, etc. The Chrysler line was similar in basic style to a Plymouth, but much more upscale. Even Imperial was a completely different car, no unit body for it, although it was almost a unit body built on a full frame. Chrysler as an independent company failed when they no longer differentiated their cars. Why buy a Chrysler when a Dodge was the pretty much the same car? Same with Plymouth. If a Dodge gave you the same car, with a better name (Dodge wasn't always considered a cheap low quality car) and the price was the same, why buy the Plymouth?
Remember the Olds with a Chevy engine days?
 

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The "Dauntless"? That didn't happen until about 68 and only for the last years.
Otherwise it was the Tornado (I6 OHC), and then the AMC 327 V8 before the the GM 350.
So the original was.......... I6 only.
True enough...i should have specified "JS".
 

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