Surprise! Not as secure as I thought

[OrangeTJ]

Just my opinion but I think lots of people put waaaay too much stock in the "security" that locks and glass windows provide. They are nothing to stop a thief. All they need is a simple claw hammer. Frankly, the damage costs associated with broken windows and/or interior compartment locks is often probably more than the value of whatever gets stolen.

Similarly, the location of the zippers for the soft top windows is irrelevant when a simple pocket knife can accomplish the same entry. Heck, it's probably easier than using the zippers. Given the choice, I'd rather have a thief unzip my window and take the $3 worth of spare change and maybe a water bottle out of my vehicle than have them either break a window or slash my soft top to do the same.

For me, I'd rather leave my vehicle unlocked and with nothing of value inside to get stolen. If somebody wants whatever is in it, they'll get it one way or another.

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[Trauma PA]

My 2-cents;

If your Jeep is topless, assume you have no locking storage. In fact, it's best to not even try to lock your storage. From personal experience I've had idiots break the plastic locks on both my glove box and center console on prior Jeeps looking for god knows what. Now I'd rather just leave it unlocked and let them see that it's just insurance paperwork.

Same with the top and doors. If you've got a soft top, just don't lock the thing. Too many fools will slice the top with a knife to break into it. Better to just leave the vehicle unlocked IMHO.

As a long time Jeep owner, I 100% agree with you. Not worth the cost of replacing a soft top or a broken glove box or center console.

 

[Kevin_D]

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So, I know that Ft Knox security and Jeeps do not travel side-by-side, but this is ridiculous. My son bought a new ‘21 Mojave. Out of curiosity he tried his flip-out key in my ‘20 Sport S glove box and console AND IT WORKED! The keys were cut entirely different, but yet interchanged. We didn’t try the door. I’m ASSUMING this would be keyed differently.

My take a way on this is that when you are topless and/or doorless anyone with a ‘18 to ‘21 JL or JT can access your locked up stuff in a parking lot or off road.

JEEP, What the Hell???

The locking gas cap only has 4, “Pins,” and only 4 positions for each pin. That’s only 16 combinations. I imagine the interior storage locks are similar, so it’s not too surprising that this can happen.

Kevin

 

[Caraholic]

The doors will also unlock if you squirt them with a hose and the key is nearby. It happens several times while I am washing it. I wonder if someone leaves thier key near their driveway (say on the kitchen counter by a side door) and it rains....will the doors unlock? Can someone just walk up and get in? Has anyone tested the range of the fob?

Happens with other makes too

 

[MPMB]

So, I know that Ft Knox security and Jeeps do not travel side-by-side, but this is ridiculous. My son bought a new ‘21 Mojave. Out of curiosity he tried his flip-out key in my ‘20 Sport S glove box and console AND IT WORKED! The keys were cut entirely different, but yet interchanged. We didn’t try the door. I’m ASSUMING this would be keyed differently.

My take a way on this is that when you are topless and/or doorless anyone with a ‘18 to ‘21 JL or JT can access your locked up stuff in a parking lot or off road.

JEEP, What the Hell???

I haven't tried it myself, but after taking out the glovebox for some wiring work, I'm pretty sure you can rip out the glove box by giving it a good yank from underneath. It doesn't matter what lock is on there, the pivot is weaker.

I'm tempted to pick up the center console lock box. It's on the list. Somewhere in the 50-100 range.

 

[Rex3rd]

Nothing is safe when your holding your two year old look down and they have mashed every button on your key fob

 

[redrider]

Locks keep honest people honest.

 

[brancky3]

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The locking gas cap only has 4, “Pins,” and only 4 positions for each pin. That’s only 16 combinations. I imagine the interior storage locks are similar, so it’s not too surprising that this can happen.

Kevin

If I understand correctly, 4 pins and 4 possible positions for each pin would actually be 256 combinations. 2 pins with 4 possible positions would equal 16 combinations.

 

[samd1351]

That's better than the freaky, spooky elf on the shelf

But not as fun as the ever popular Whore on the Floor!

 

[Buttercup]

Have you tried the locks that secure the rear seat backs in the up position thus securing the storage behind the seat backs?


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[ShadowsPapa]

If I understand correctly, 4 pins and 4 possible positions for each pin would actually be 256 combinations. 2 pins with 4 possible positions would equal 16 combinations.

I think the 16 came from thinking about 4 unique numbers, 1 through 4, and each can occupy any one of 4 positions, but there can only be one number 1, one number 2 and so on.
In the case of the key, you have 4 positions and each position can be any one of 4 "numbers" so you could have 1221, 1244, 1313 and so on as opposed to each position having to be unique.
Limited to 4 unique numbers or positions, yes, 16, but you can have 4414 in this case, which expands the possible combinations.

 

[Dawg Fan]

I do know all Harley Davidson keys will open the gas tanks on any HD. Left my keys at home one day needed some gas borrowed the key from another HD rider to open my cover and filled up! Never left them again. Now all HD just have a button to open.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I do know all Harley Davidson keys will open the gas tanks on any HD. Left my keys at home one day needed some gas borrowed the key from another HD rider to open my cover and filled up! Never left them again. Now all HD just have a button to open.

When I was pre-teen my parents had two cars - Mom had a 1960 Valiant and Dad had a 1963 Rambler Classic (Motortrend car of the year)
Mom hadn't driven her car for a while so Dad and I took her Valiant to town shopping. Done, back to the car, crap, Dad can't find the car keys! Panic time! He lost Mom's Valiant keys. Now what........ I can't recall what made him figure this out but in the end we started the car and drove home with his Rambler key. We got home and there was the keys to Mom's Valiant still hanging on the hook by the back door. He had taken the car with his keys, not even thinking, just habit.
Two different makes, one key worked in the ignition of both.
I've run across this more than once.

 

[Cromation]

My 2-cents;

If your Jeep is topless, assume you have no locking storage. In fact, it's best to not even try to lock your storage. From personal experience I've had idiots break the plastic locks on both my glove box and center console on prior Jeeps looking for god knows what. Now I'd rather just leave it unlocked and let them see that it's just insurance paperwork.

Same with the top and doors. If you've got a soft top, just don't lock the thing. Too many fools will slice the top with a knife to break into it. Better to just leave the vehicle unlocked IMHO.

This doesnt even work at times. My sisters old wrangler had soft top and half doors with the plastic windows. She always left it unlocked because of that. Guys came through and instead of checking the doors they still cut through the windows. Idiots gonna idiot.

 

[Imbuere]

My 2-cents;

If your Jeep is topless, assume you have no locking storage. In fact, it's best to not even try to lock your storage. From personal experience I've had idiots break the plastic locks on both my glove box and center console on prior Jeeps looking for god knows what. Now I'd rather just leave it unlocked and let them see that it's just insurance paperwork.

Same with the top and doors. If you've got a soft top, just don't lock the thing. Too many fools will slice the top with a knife to break into it. Better to just leave the vehicle unlocked IMHO.

Same here. I locked my glove last time I had a flat patched/plugged at Discount tire. Next day I reached for the handle and it fell off like it was already broken and just placed back on. Luckily my dealership replaced it in warrenty.

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