The Overland is gone. Now what

[Bama_Swampfox]

That’s always a good option.

When the Mojave first came out, I test rode one, we couldn’t come to a mutually agreeable deal and I ultimately bought an Overland. I very much enjoyed it and frankly I didn’t even need it’s capabilities, as the worst I drove it on was sand or grass, getting to mountain bike or dirt bike areas.

i also liked the fact it was smaller than the 5 previous F150’s I’d had. Maybe I’m the definition of a poser, but the Overland suited me.

Anyway, I traded it in on a Mojave X the other week. Didn’t need to. Wanted to.

So far, while the Overland was fine, I much prefer the Mojave X. i haven’t been off-road on it. Maybe I never will, since I have dirt bikes and Adventure motorcycles For that.

What I like: it steers better, it rides better, it’s much quieter, the seats with the bolsters fit me better (I’m not fat) and are much more comfortable The paint is nicer, it doesn’t have those stupid dealer added floorboards. And, well, I admit it, it looks way cooler, and I like that. There are many more differences, but those are the ones that mattered to me

Is it worth it? Well, I’m 71. I’m healthy and fit. I have reasonable financial resources for my likely lifespan. These are my golden retirement years. Might as well spend my discretionary dollars while I can enjoy them, rather than having a fat bank account during my essentially housebound, declining years.

Thanks for the response - great perspective. I’m only a few months behind you, in a similar situation so, now I have something to consider as an option! I’ve only 50k on my Overland and put on new tires a few months back so I have some time to look things over. Thanks again! (sorry for the mistakes in my previous post - was working from my phone....)

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[Vtur]

My 2024 Sport S was heavily optioned, with most of the Overland perks. My leather seats even say “Overland”!

What? Your leather seats has Overland embroidered? That's wild lol

 

[ShadowsPapa]

What? Your leather seats has Overland embroidered? That's wild lol

Yeah, weird they are in the Sport!

but it's what Overlands came with factory - they were really very nice seats!

 

[Vtur]

Good stuff as far as the packages for sure. But $58k geez. Thats what I'm saying about the margins being so high in between (and keep in mind, thats considering its still not even a Rubicon or Mojave). Could only imagine the margins there, just to have all the same stuff my Overland came with.

Although I purchased mine in early 21' and is a 2020 by year, but mine was listed at $52k but paid only $49k. That's my whole point in the Overland having been arguably the best trim for value right from the lot.

$49k is what i paid otd for my early 2021 loaded diesel Overland. It was nearly $8k different compared to similar optioned Rubicon at the time. That saving got me Mopar lift kit, 5 AEV Borah w/37s tires, regear, Rubi swaybar disconnect, and a winch. Did the works myself.

 

[bill61]

If/when my seats leather is damaged Katskinz will be installed for sure. Their quality just looks too nice to ignore.

 

[BCC]

Thanks for the response - great perspective. I’m only a few months behind you, in a similar situation so, now I have something to consider as an option! I’ve only 50k on my Overland and put on new tires a few months back so I have some time to look things over. Thanks again! (sorry for the mistakes in my previous post - was working from my phone....)

Ha! Even more similarities. I replaced all 4 tires weeks before trading…..and had just done an oil change. Low mileage, too!

 

[ShadowsPapa]

If/when my seats leather is damaged Katskinz will be installed for sure. Their quality just looks too nice to ignore.

Yeah, I've seen them, I'd possibly go that route if I didn't have what I have or had to buy something with cloth - I'd go with those for sure. Nice option.

 

[Stan H]

If/when my seats leather is damaged Katskinz will be installed for sure. Their quality just looks too nice to ignore.

Do the Katskizn come with additional padding ?

 

[bill61]

I am not sure if they add padding.

 

[NC_Overland]

Katskin is only as good as the installer. Having worked for many dealerships who used them for years, they either look great, as good or better than factory, or DIY and sloppy. Not much in between.

 

[bill61]

I would only go to a Katzkin installer. If I remember correctly they list them on their site. The dealer would add $1K or more to the install.

 

[Redfour5]

I have a lot of insight on this topic....


So I am a extremely huge fan of the Overland trim having one myself. Unlike a lot of people, I specifically wanted the Overland and did not feel like I settled for it. And in all honesty, I feel like it is one of the best and valuable trims for the Gladiator. And it's not a coincidence that in 2024, it was the only trim to be discontinued.

Reason being in my opinion, and I've said this before in numerous debates, the Overland was probably the best trim for the value for "most" people. There's not one feature or package My Overland doesn't have as far as creature comforts. This may be personal opinion, but I feel like it's true in a lot of cases that a lot of people buy Rubicons for the name. And for me I couldn't justify the extra 10-12k (at the time I purchased in early 21' anyway) to have a Rubicon or Mojave with all the features my Overland has. I see often what I call "low tier" Rubicons, and although Rubicons, don't have LEDS from the factory, no leather, plastic non-painted fenders etc, etc. In my opinion I'd rather have my Overland before a "low budget" Rubicon without half my creature comforts I use everyday. Especially considering my off-road habits are moderate to minimal. Don't get me wrong lockers and automatic disconnects are and would be great which the Overland lacks. And I do get my Overland off road a fair amount (my IG, and YouTube can back that up). But I'm also no rock crawler and I don't think a lot of people give credit on the capabilities that even A stock jeep has. Let alone building one to your own off road habits. Which is what I've done and still currently doing with my Overland and mine has performed flawless in moderate conditions. But I know my limits and am fine with it.

If the margin at least when I purchase initially and probably even now, wasn't so steep to have a rubicon with all the packages and features my Overland has, than of course I would have got a Rubicon. But I couldn't justify that amount. If you've got it like that, than ok. But I don't. I've been very content with mine and have built to my liking. So the Overland is a gem and I feel that Jeep knew after the fact that it was the best Jeep right out the gates for so many people to have the best of both worlds without breaking the bank(and not that the overland is a cheap trim by any means) But it's not a coincidence it's the only trim to get discontinued. Jeep knew that value after the fact. Which I understand from a business standpoint, but it in turn has forced a lot of people moving forward to purchase Rubicon's and Rubicon X and getting and paying extra for features they most likely won't use or don't care about (particularly lockers and discos). When in all reality even for avid off-roaders, we jeepers are on road 80% of the time, most of us. And if you're not than, you wouldn't be interested in an Overland anyway.

But I've had this debate before and even spoke about it in one of my YouTube videos about how the Overland is arguably one of the best trims for the value and not even from a cheap standpoint considering it was based as a mid to high trim. But people often get so caught up in specifics and having to have a Rubicon or Mojave, yet they're rolling around with plastic fenders, dull headlights, cloth seats, small entertainment screens, etc. But hey they got that Rubicon/Mojave sticker on the side of the hood! lol. Unless you have the money to spend to get the higher tier Rubicon than in my opinion I'd take my Overland before it any day and is why I went with mine.

Keep your Overland if you can. Just my opinion. Since Jeep butchered it, unless you can afford a Rubicon X or Mojave without getting raped for all the features, I'd keep it.

Good point on the LED light package that was standard on the Overland... Did they have the full time 4WD? "Selec Trac" If so, that is another valuable add on...that is NOW only available on X models...

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Good point on the LED light package that was standard on the Overland... Did they have the full time 4WD? "Selec Trac" If so, that is another valuable add on...that is NOW only available on X models...

4H auto SelecTrac was an option for Overland. I had it in my 2022.
And yes, now only available with the X package.
My "THEORY" is that they are reducing the numbers of the SelecTrac t-case options for the other levels because it's required for the 4xe.
The 4xe Wrangler is still a good seller and the 4xe Gladiator is coming up, so could be an issue of supply as to why it's only for the X package - cutting numbers otherwise sold. They might not be able to get enough of them for both.
JUST A THEORY.
But the reason FCA makes the ZF 8 speed transmissions we get was because ZF couldn't meet the demand of Jeep, so it does make sense to be a supply issue. Supply can't keep up.

 

[Camaroboi13]

Yeah, weird they are in the Sport!

but it's what Overlands came with factory - they were really very nice seats!

Don’t be so sure of that… my overland has cloth seats with overland stitching in them. That was my choice, I hate leather. The cloth is more of a premium cloth vs the other models. Still has the extra bolstering too. I prefer them even over the seats in my wife’s 24 Willys with its denim like fabric.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Don’t be so sure of that… my overland has cloth seats with overland stitching in them. That was my choice, I hate leather. The cloth is more of a premium cloth vs the other models. Still has the extra bolstering too. I prefer them even over the seats in my wife’s 24 Willys with its denim like fabric.

Factory in that you could choose Overland with factory leather or the standard Overland cloth, both having Overland stitched in them and better than many of the other seats. I liked how the Overland seats fit and felt

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