Truck's bed is poorly made....

[WK2JT]

So this has me concerned for the Wilco spare mount I purchased, but yet to install. The angle iron used is similar to the trail tail concept. Only difference is I would have it flush to the bed towards the back, so less leverage. Still concerning. Anyone have a Wilco installed and using it with a 37?

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[Minty JL]

The alloys may be different. You rarely see pure aluminum. Like stainless steel - there's different grades cheap to good. Some stainless will actually corrode.

Yup, quality Stainless steel is not magnetic.

Nice little read if interested: https://www.unifiedalloys.com/blog/stainless-grades-families

 

[mx5red]

So this has me concerned for the Wilco spare mount I purchased, but yet to install. The angle iron used is similar to the trail tail concept. Only difference is I would have it flush to the bed towards the back, so less leverage. Still concerning. Anyone have a Wilco installed and using it with a 37?

I would think a mount that attaches to the bed rail is multiple times stronger than two screws in sheet metal the OP had.
Spreads the forces out across more mounting points and surface area.

 

[WK2JT]

I would think a mount that attaches to the bed rail is multiple times stronger than two screws in sheet metal the OP had.
Spreads the forces out across more mounting points and surface area.

I would agree, but it appears he had a piece of angle iron all the way down the bed if I’m seeing it correctly in the pic.

 

[booneja]

who would have thought? lol not this MF hahaha

Glad to see you still have a sense of humour about the whole thing, too many time nowadays we see folks get all bent out of shape even if it is their own fault. As I always say, if you can't laugh at yourself when you make mistakes, you can't judge others mistakes, lol......hope you get it fixed the way you want, best of luck

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Yup, quality Stainless steel is not magnetic.

Nice little read if interested: https://www.unifiedalloys.com/blog/stainless-grades-families

I have to be really careful when ordering stainless steel to use with my plating - it's got to be the better stuff otherwise it can corrode or be otherwise affected by pH ranges of 1.2, 5.3 or 11+, I'm in deep doo-doo.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I would think a mount that attaches to the bed rail is multiple times stronger than two screws in sheet metal the OP had.
Spreads the forces out across more mounting points and surface area.

Yeah, something up at the top where there's some meat, the top edge. Even when I had my 70 Chevy that's where I had the spare tire carrier mounted - at the top of the bed rail, then to the floor. Not to the wall of the bed.
There's a reason I added rivnuts to the walls of my truck when I mounted rails on mine. I wasn't impressed with the few anchor points they provide, not to mention HOW the anchor points are made.
So I drilled and made more attachment points.

 

[mx5red]

I would agree, but it appears he had a piece of angle iron all the way down the bed if I’m seeing it correctly in the pic.

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Given that those mounting points are designed to hold bedrails and secure heavy items, I can’t believe they ripped out from a tire sitting there. Doesn’t seem like there would be as much force from that, but what do I know.

 

[Gvsukids]

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Given that those mounting points are designed to hold bedrails and secure heavy items, I can’t believe they ripped out from a tire sitting there. Doesn’t seem like there would be as much force from that, but what do I know.

But the frame wasn't mounted on the bed rail and only in 2 places.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

6mm threaded holes in the sides - and not that many threads, either. Look at the back side - not a lot of support back there. It's not much better than home-installed rivnuts. The only advantage the "trail rails" have is spreading the load over the few tiny holes on the sides - the trail rails are stiff, won't flex a lot so any pull should be spread out at least a little bit. There's still going to be more "pull" or loading at the two fasteners nearest the load because of a certain amount of "ridgidness" to the trail rail.
Take the weight of that big spare and bounce it around a bit - any tiny bit of wiggle and it becomes a slide-hammer, not just a steady 100 pound load.

 

[WK2JT]

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Given that those mounting points are designed to hold bedrails and secure heavy items, I can’t believe they ripped out from a tire sitting there. Doesn’t seem like there would be as much force from that, but what do I know.

Yeah, not sure if it just had two bolts, three, or how sung it fit. I’m considering just using when off-road, so it won’t stress it all the time.

 

[Minty JL]

Yeah, something up at the top where there's some meat, the top edge. Even when I had my 70 Chevy that's where I had the spare tire carrier mounted - at the top of the bed rail, then to the floor. Not to the wall of the bed.
There's a reason I added rivnuts to the walls of my truck when I mounted rails on mine. I wasn't impressed with the few anchor points they provide, not to mention HOW the anchor points are made.
So I drilled and made more attachment points.

Rivnuts or nutserts..........what separates the rookies from the pros.

I pick them up in bulk at Eastwood Restorations

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Rivnuts or nutserts..........what separates the rookies from the pros.

I pick them up in bulk at Eastwood Restorations

Nutsert is a trade name, go looking for either and you'll find the same products sold with either name.
I keep an assortment on hand all the time and have used them for my bed cover latches, my own "trail rail" setup, the acrylic brackets for my electric accessories under the hood and more.
You already know how many variations you can get - aluminum, stainless, steel - in different finishes, etc.

Rail mounting -
Mine - left, theirs - right
I just decided I wasn't sure about trusting their few attachment points when adding more, even if only marginal added strength, was worth it if nothing else in making the more narrow rails I used a bit more rigid.

 

[BearFootSam]

That's a tough break but all things considered, we do still have a full steel bed (ahem Toyota) and the truck is already the heaviest in the class. I have beaten the heck out of my bed so far and with the bed liner it has thankfully been no worse for wear.

 

[Blade1668]

Yup, quality Stainless steel is not magnetic.

Nice little read if interested: https://www.unifiedalloys.com/blog/stainless-grades-families

My father was always stunned by damn near anything S.S. I would handle seemed to become magnetic charged. BTW: The history of S.S is a interesting reading.

I don't even want to think about the damn galling with S.S. or rusting/ staining.
I guess or should say I've got or can have a corrosive personality on people and substances.

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