We are Suckers

[Red Hot Sloth]

I like cheese.

Did someone say cheese!?!?!

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[ShadowsPapa]

But if we put the 5.7L in the Jeep it's going to get 5mpg obviously because factors and variables that can't be defined and defy all logical comparisons.

I thought it would do 6

 

[brsnow2585]

Ok my fist jeep was a CJ, followed by a YJ then a TJ now a JT. As to modernization they have come WAY forward from where they were. As to vented seats I wouldn’t want it cause the mud that would plug them up would be a customer complaint nightmare so I can see why they don’t offer it. The only thing I would love is a power rear window I love the Gladiator but mine is a daily driver and side by side so way cheaper than two vehicles and a trailer. Just my 2 cents and it all comes down to how you use it

Power back window..... Preach brother.... The struggle is real. I think the gladiator is mis-classed, I constantly line up with f-150s and best I can tell we're the same size, I might be a little taller. It's probably weight based, gladdy is mostly skinned in aluminum so it doesn't have as much ass to keep a trailer in check. And... You have to go up to f-250 before you start smelling solid axels..... Just saying

 

[Supazuk]

Rather than Jeep investing in a modern Gladiator, we get "Special Editions" and the promise of an antiquated V-8 all for an overpriced mid-sized truck. As badly as I would like to replace my Glad with a future Glad in a few years, I suspect I will struggle paying Jeep prices for an old truck. What a shame!! By the time we get an updated Gladiator, the just released, all new 4 Runner will have a mid-life refresh. How about that perspective?!?

what Toyota Truck or SUV lets you drop its top or has solid axles?
We are talking Apples and watermelons here ...
sure you can make apple cobbler, caramel apples or apple pie..
However the watermelon just needs to be cut and kids keep coming back for more.
Toyota need a constant refresh of its bland self to sell, Jeep sells because its a jeep

 

[JTdiRtyD]

I'm just coming back to say once again that Toyotas are boring.

That is all.

 

[WILDHOBO]

I'm just coming back to say once again that Toyotas are boring.

That is all.

I will add that fords are basic and I hate them with every fiber of my being. If forced into a choice between ford and anything else at all. I choose anything else.

 

[Orange01z28]

"Antiquated V8?"

Are they putting in 5.9 Magnums?

 

[biodiesel]

I think the gladiator is mis-classed, I constantly line up with f-150s and best I can tell we're the same size, I might be a little taller.

The Gladiator is clearly a midsize truck. It's smaller and less capable than the F150. I agree that there isn't a substantial difference in overall length between the Gladiator and the F150, GM 1500, and Ram 1500, but when you start comparing the midsize trucks to 1/2-ton trucks, then you'll see why the Gladiator is classified correctly.

 

[Hockeypilot44]

I’m coming up on almost 6 years of owning mine and over 93,000 miles of daily driving, camping, and some towing. I have a soft top max tow. I can afford whatever I want. I honestly can’t think of a good reason to trade it in and get something new. I love this truck. It still looks brand new other than some fading of the black plastic bumper and the plastic on the hood. The hard tonneau cover rubber seal where it folds has cracked a little and lets some water into bed when it rains. Other than that truck running and looking great

 

[WambliSka]

The Gladiator is clearly a midsize truck. It's smaller and less capable than the F150. I agree that there isn't a substantial difference in overall length between the Gladiator and the F150, GM 1500, and Ram 1500, but when you start comparing the midsize trucks to 1/2-ton trucks, then you'll see why the Gladiator is classified correctly.

Less capable at WHAT? The capabilities of a vehicle are less about what you see on paper as they are in suitability for use based on owner's needs. I have yet to see an F-150 that would be able to keep up with my Gladiator at what I'm asking it to do and the places I take it to. No shame on the F-150s, they are fine trucks. Just not the best to work for ME...

But I'm not saying that the Gladiator is the only vehicle that would get me there. I have had a few outings with well appointed Tacos and I'm always impressed with their capabilities off-road. The limitations start becoming evident when you go shopping for modifications to improve on those capabilities. With Jeep the sky is the limit and you can make a Jeep into anything you want with off the shelf components. Anything other vehicle, not so much...

 

[biodiesel]

Less capable at WHAT?

Less capable according to the SAE J2807 towing test. We're talking about classifications. The midsize segment is going to be less capable when comes to towing and payload capacities. This will put things into perspective:

mid-size
Jeep Gladiator - 7,700 lbs max towing
Ford Ranger - 7,500 lbs max towing
GMC Canyon - 7,700 lbs max towing

full-size
Ram 1500 - 12,750 lbs max towing
Ford F150 - 13,500 lbs max towing
GMC Sierra 1500 - 13,300 lbs max towing

 

[WambliSka]

Less capable according to the SAE J2807 towing test. We're talking about classifications. The midsize segment is going to be less capable when comes to towing and payload capacities. This will put things into perspective:

mid-size
Jeep Gladiator - 7,700 lbs max towing
Ford Ranger - 7,500 lbs max towing
GMC Canyon - 7,700 lbs max towing

full-size
Ram 1500 - 12,750 lbs max towing
Ford F150 - 13,500 lbs max towing
GMC Sierra 1500 - 13,300 lbs max towing

Ahhhhhh, thanks for clarifying! Now I get your point

 

[JmattNYC]

I'm just coming back to say once again that Toyotas are boring.

That is all.

Yes i agree and have been overated for years.

 

[CapChimiChangas]

Rather than Jeep investing in a modern Gladiator, we get "Special Editions" and the promise of an antiquated V-8 all for an overpriced mid-sized truck. As badly as I would like to replace my Glad with a future Glad in a few years, I suspect I will struggle paying Jeep prices for an old truck. What a shame!! By the time we get an updated Gladiator, the just released, all new 4 Runner will have a mid-life refresh. How about that perspective?!?

Pay AMW4x4 and have a midlife refresh with a V8 that should have come from the factory in these JTs.

 

[YGBSM]

Maybe it's psycolic... psychalo... sicolog... Maybe it's a brain thing but the first time I had happy fun time with my girlfriend (all 24 seconds of it) was in a Jeep. I was more bendy then. So, I've owned Jeeps since then.

We had cheeseburgers after so maybe the cheese thing is a factor too.

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