URGENT dealer wants to charge me $145 for "recalibration to new tire size"

[mtudb24]

Not exactly, MSRP for just the software calibration download is $125. Dealer cost for it is $100. Then there is whatever labor charge the dealer wants to add on top of that to perform the calibration.

Not sure about that. Back when I got mine 2+ years ago, I paid them $125 after they put on the lift and I brought them my tires /wheels for them to install before I took delivery of the truck.

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[Jeeperjamie]

Not sure about that. Back when I got mine 2+ years ago, I paid them $125 after they put on the lift and I brought them my tires /wheels for them to install before I took delivery of the truck.

They told me $100 And that's still what my dealer, Hendrick in Concord NC charges if you go there.and get it done. But that's for each thing. So if they got to do LEDs it's $100 and then another $100 for tires ETC....

 

[Hootbro]

Not sure about that. Back when I got mine 2+ years ago, I paid them $125 after they put on the lift and I brought them my tires /wheels for them to install before I took delivery of the truck.

Well, after 9/25/2020, there is a Star Online Publication stating what I said previously that it cost the dealer a wholesale cost of $100 to download the configuration change. Nothing is mentioned of labor being wrapped up in that price. If you got it done after that, great but the dealer only made $25 on the transaction.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...on-to-new-tire-size.66217/page-2#post-1086366

 

[Snow Army]

I have my own tire mounting machine and balancer at home. The balancer is from 2006 and does great with "normal" stuff, but not so great with bigger tires. After much trial and error over the years, I wrote my balancer off on anything larger than 33" and/or anything heavy, but gave this wheel set a try after a recent recalibration. Nope, still not great, hence my reason to go "out of house" for this balance. In the past, I've just dropped them off at the most convenient garage and picked them up when they were done with hit or miss results. Fairly recently, I dropped off two sets of wheels at my local firestone tire to have them balanced. One set was mud terrains on steel wheels (very heavy), and the other was a set of raptor wheels that I had on my F150, so 315/70r17's (same size as the jeep). They did an OK job with both sets, but neither were perfect. They were also expensive, about 25 a wheel, so I wasn't going back.



In short, Ive done my due diligence when it comes to tire balancing. Big tires need more attention. This time around, I figured I would give the "road force balance" a shot. Since dealers pop up as the only local spots with them, off to the dealer I went! At 67 bucks out the door, it was a bargain, and they did a nice job.

I wasn't really talking about this guys tire issues directly I was talking more in general. All I see on this form is dealership and warranty issues and this was just the post I said it on. I have no doubt you can have a worm and fuzzy dealer experience. But I would sooner just treat it that if it breaks I will just deal with it on my terms not the dealers. I came to this conclusion when they burned me, and I new better before I even dropped it off. After that I decided I'm not waiting to do the things that would void the warranty. It was the best decision I made. I know I'm rambling on here but I feel pretty strong about it.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

So WAZE has access to the vehicle speed signal through the radio CAN BUS messaging traffic?

Got a reference for that? Maybe my Google foo sucks but I cannot find any reference to WAZE getting the vehicle speed signal.

I seem to recall it being more of an iPhone issue. But recall no proof, only anecdotal.
It would be odd since the phone has GPS capabilities (*unless turned off)

Waze is pretty independent - at least on my old LG. I really like Waze....... even if its foster parents are jerks LOL

 

[briscoelab]

Android auto plugged in will do the same thing. It pulls the speed from the in dash unit for some reason.

Now, you can get a GPS speed only app, that doesn’t do navigation, and that will use the phone’s GPS sensor for speed though. Even my motorcycle nav app will use the built in phone GPS for speed. It’s very perculular behavior and totally dependent on how the app was written.

But, Waze and Google maps on Android or iPhone will use the info the Jeep is passing off. No idea why this happens. It’s very odd behavior and totally a programming issue.

This only happens on phones capable of working with Android Auto or CarPlay. I have also not verified it on any Jeep that doesn’t have the 8.4”.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Android auto plugged in will do the same thing. It pulls the speed from the in dash unit for some reason.

Now, you can get a GPS speed only app, that doesn’t do navigation, and that will use the phone’s GPS sensor for speed though. Even my motorcycle nav app will use the built in phone GPS for speed. It’s very perculular behavior and totally dependent on how the app was written.

But, Waze and Google maps on Android or iPhone will use the info the Jeep is passing off. No idea why this happens. It’s very odd behavior and totally a programming issue.

This only happens on phones capable of working with Android Auto or CarPlay. I have also not verified it on any Jeep that doesn’t have the 8.4”.

I very rarely use AA.
Even if plugged in, I generally cancel unless I really want to use AA for something specific.
So just plugging in won't do it, it's AA doing it apparently.

 

[mtudb24]

Well, after 9/25/2020, there is a Star Online Publication stating what I said previously that it cost the dealer a wholesale cost of $100 to download the configuration change. Nothing is mentioned of labor being wrapped up in that price. If you got it done after that, great but the dealer only made $25 on the transaction.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...on-to-new-tire-size.66217/page-2#post-1086366

10/7/2020 is when mine came in. But I do have a great relationship with my salesman, so maybe he worked it in for me? Not doubting you at all, just posting what I actually paid for it to be done. I'm sure there are lots of variables that are at play with different dealers etc.

 

[briscoelab]

I very rarely use AA.
Even if plugged in, I generally cancel unless I really want to use AA for something specific.
So just plugging in won't do it, it's AA doing it apparently.

Yeah, it has to be something in the integration layer.

The vehicle built in sat nav on the 8.4“ will also display the incorrect speed and trip ETAs too, despite having a GPS antenna and receiver.

Waze and Google Maps will display some odd behavior on trip estimated times too when there is a disconnect between vehicle indicated speed and real speed, when running with the integration. It doesn’t like that you are making miles go by faster than the speed it’s being fed by the vehicle computer. Usually this manifests as just way over estimating how long a trip will take and refusing to accurately update your ETA time.

But, we’re pretty far in the weeds here… not to mention off topic

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Yeah, it has to be something in the integration layer.

The vehicle built in sat nav on the 8.4“ will also display the incorrect speed and trip ETAs too, despite having a GPS antenna and receiver.

Waze and Google Maps will display some odd behavior on trip estimated times too when there is a disconnect between vehicle indicated speed and real speed, when running with the integration. It doesn’t like that you are making miles go by faster than the speed it’s being fed by the vehicle computer. Usually this manifests as just way over estimating how long a trip will take and refusing to accurately update your ETA time.

But, we’re pretty far in the weeds here… not to mention off topic

Now you have me curious and interested in this because I've noticed Google grossly mis-estimated our travel time to Colorado Springs in my 2020.

 

[AstroZombie]

Is there a link to this jscan tool? i got the flashcal and am afraid to use it after reading reviews. I think i will just return it.

 

[Hootbro]

Is there a link to this jscan tool? i got the flashcal and am afraid to use it after reading reviews. I think i will just return it.

http://jscan.net/

 

[AstroZombie]

my warranty is about over so maybe ill just keep the superchip

 

[ShadowsPapa]

my warranty is about over so maybe ill just keep the superchip

JSCAN is so much more than some of the more simple "electronic devices".
It's not for everyone, but it's a handy tool to have for making changes to tire sizes, among other things.
I like the diagnostic functionality - reading or clearing codes, checking misfire counts live as I drive, and the list goes on. Others like and prefer AlfaOBD - it's not tied to a single VIN, it's tied to the device you run it on (and you can have it on multiple devices, like a phone and a tablet, both)

There are options. No one is stuck with any one tool. If all you ever want or need to do is change tire sizes and don't care about anything else, ever - then go the cheaper, simple route.
Consider what you may do in the future as well as what you are sure you will never do or need.

 

[AstroZombie]

JSCAN is so much more than some of the more simple "electronic devices".
It's not for everyone, but it's a handy tool to have for making changes to tire sizes, among other things.
I like the diagnostic functionality - reading or clearing codes, checking misfire counts live as I drive, and the list goes on. Others like and prefer AlfaOBD - it's not tied to a single VIN, it's tied to the device you run it on (and you can have it on multiple devices, like a phone and a tablet, both)

There are options. No one is stuck with any one tool. If all you ever want or need to do is change tire sizes and don't care about anything else, ever - then go the cheaper, simple route.
Consider what you may do in the future as well as what you are sure you will never do or need.

your replies are the best LOL. I like cheaper. So the jscan is just a bluetooth OBD devise that connects to my phone app?

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