Are You Thinking About Cashing in on an EV

[Jefe1018]

I’m 30 today. I’m sure by the time I’m 60 I’ll own at least one. This whole hating ev thing is trying to stop the future, there’s no stopping advancement and human innovation. At one point people hated EFI and they figured it out. I’m sure with time and money they’ll figure out evs too. It’s just life.

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[Jakeyou]

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

 

[Lost1wing]

To answer OP yes, but most likely for a PHEV. My neck of the woods the charging infrastructure is not there yet. I also see a lot of comments from people who never actually drove an EV in their life, go test drive one than we wil talk like adults.

This is not about the drive of an EV. The technology is awesome, however the cost of ownership is not for everyone. The fact that a tax credit is being given to those fortunate enough to be able afford one in the first place. Audi and Porsche people come to mind. The governments idea could be to get certain people to buy an EV and report back with "what a wonderful drive". I like the power, even if it kills your battery quickly. I just can't see dumping that kind of money into a part-time vehicle. Like I said it's not for everyone and everyone (taxpayers) should not be subsidizing the venture.

 

[Lost1wing]

I’m 30 today. I’m sure by the time I’m 60 I’ll own at least one. This whole hating ev thing is trying to stop the future, there’s no stopping advancement and human innovation. At one point people hated EFI and they figured it out. I’m sure with time and money they’ll figure out evs too. It’s just life.

By the time you are 40, all current holes we are digging in will be depleted of the ore needed for the batteries. Unless, more holes are dug ( strip mining) EV's will fade away. We were supposed to be out of petroleum by now too. But here we are.

 

[Chocolyle]

That bit about "emissions" and "bad for the environment" has been disproven, actually. There's a number of scientific articles that actually come from decent sources and debunk the "I hate EV" web sites.

But this thread isn't about your hate of EVs or hybrids. It's about learning some facts about credits and so on.

Besides, electric will kick your butt in the 0-60 acceleration bit.

This thread was informational, not to convince anyone. There's other I hate EV threads.

Ummmm.......

 

[Lost1wing]

How are the hybrid Gladiators holding up? Anyone care to update about it? Do hybrids qualify for a partial tax credit?

 

[21RG]

That bit about "emissions" and "bad for the environment" has been disproven, actually. There's a number of scientific articles that actually come from decent sources and debunk the "I hate EV" web sites.

But this thread isn't about your hate of EVs or hybrids. It's about learning some facts about credits and so on.

Besides, electric will kick your butt in the 0-60 acceleration bit.

This thread was informational, not to convince anyone. There's other I hate EV threads.

It has not been "disproven" it has been discredited to support a green agenda. There is no actual "proof" from your scientist other than an effort to hide and discredit facts. I support technology and improving our surroundings, but the push for electric is an "at all cost" push, just look at the initial post- Government rebates. If electric is so great, why does it take rebates and tax payer money to push the agenda? That is not a good approach.

As far as you labeling what this thread is about is more of your desire to control the narrative. It is a typical approach and one that creates separation and division. You, yes you, just created a division.

0 - 60 acceleration is a small part of the overall equation. Electric has impressive torque, but lacks a power source for extended travel. I don't do seat of the pants 0 - 60 accelerations, I travel, tow, and utilize my vehicle in other ways that is more practical and electric does not support those uses very well.

If electric works for you, great. But please provide facts (not agenda) on how the materials for the electric battery are sourced and what the actual process is for creating a battery. Also provide the actual process for disposal of the batteries after they no longer work or when a vehicle is in an accident and totaled. "Zero emissions" and "good for the environment" in electric vehicles is not a fact, it is a label.

 

[C185]

Interesting discussion--obviously strong opinions on both sides. Regarding the above video of the author and Joe Rogan, I humbly offer this:

In the thumbnail photo that accompanies my forum ID is a Cessna that I flew in the DRC. My wife and I served in missions there for many years, living in the very province spoken of in the video--Katanga. We know well the conditions that Congolese suffer through, scratching out their meager existence at any cost. No doubt on that, and I would applaud the author in the interview and his dedicated passion to get this truth out to the naive consumers that live, as he would say, higher up the supply chain.

What was not mentioned in the interview is the deeper disease that has ravaged the Congo for decades--major corruption.

Every thinking member of this forum that contemplates the operational dynamics of sourcing the Cobalt in the DRC readily realizes that it would be much more efficient to mine it with machinery--so why allow thousands in the pit? Company and governmental authorities at every level profit by payoffs and bribes, giving virtually no thought for the safety or well-being of the "miners." This is a major factor in the sad reality described in the video.

Where is the global cry to clean up the corruption? It is hidden under the greed and personal agenda of every profit-seeking enterprise that produces batteries, phones, and now, in new abundance, electric vehicles.

0-60 in just a few seconds? Who cares? Apparently, we do here in America.

So, forgive me for the speech, I'm not taking sides, only sharing an aspect of the dilemma not discussed in the above video clip, and also, perhaps, releasing some personal feeling for Congolese brothers that we loved for so long. Blessings...

 

[Tommyd]

No no no

 

[Jefe1018]

How are the hybrid Gladiators holding up? Anyone care to update about it? Do hybrids qualify for a partial tax credit?

There are no hybrid Gladiators. However, according to the website of my 2nd least favorite three letter agency, the Wrangler 4xe is included.

 

[Lost1wing]

There are no hybrid Gladiators. However, according to the website of 2nd least favorite three letter agency, the Wrangler 4xe is included.

I was at a rally last summer near Detroit. Yes you are correct. You did refresh my memory though. There were 2 JL'S or wranglers there. The techs even glossed over the difference with the dash console set up. The whole 4wd setup was different.

I hate not remembering things from 8 months ago. Thank you for setting me straight.

The techs did talk a bit about a hybrid Gladiator. Timing was all wrong and the idea got shelved. Then the shelf was cleared off for other items.

 

[Jefe1018]

I was at a rally last summer near Detroit. Yes you are correct. You did refresh my memory though. There were 2 JL'S there. The techs even glossed over the difference with the dash console set up. The whole 4wd setup was different.

I hate not remembering things from 8 months ago. Thank you for setting me straight.

The techs did talk a bit about a hybrid Gladiator. Timing was all wrong and the idea got shelved. Then the shelf was cleared off for other items.

Well if the ecodiesel really hits the payload capacity, not sure how badly heavy batteries would hit the JT and its towing ability.

 

[Victoryrider78]

I already had a battery powered jeep as a kid. I don't want another one now.

 

[Lost1wing]

Well if the ecodiesel really hits the payload capacity, not sure how badly heavy batteries would hit the JT and its towing ability.

There was an article published last week of the dangers of EV's especially with long range EV's. The weigh is getting high enough that they can be like torpedoes. They also mention the fire hazzards. Firefighters are now getting training on how to deal with it.

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