2024 Gladiator Build & Price Configurator is Finally Live!

[ecidiego]

Dude they don't have their shit together... check this out @ShadowsPapa

Sport S standard:

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[ecidiego]

ACC and FCW are listed as Standard on every 2024 model on the page. Whether or not they appear on the sticker is another story.

 

[ecidiego]

This says Sport S has body color flares standard:

Here's what I see on flares:

Sport S, Willys, Rubicon X, Mojave X standard body color flares

Sport, Rubicon, Mojave standard black molded flares

 

[Banjo702]

The problem is, IF you can build exactly the same yes it is cheaper. BUT most would end up with alot of things they do not want. It is only a good value if you want or have a use for it.

To get the equivalent of what I have, sticker of 60,500 I spend 62870 now.

I think it is a HUGE mistake to force painted top and flares on the X. Combination of price and that would rule an X out right off the bat. It should be cheaper base and they be options. I think they are not understanding the market again and will have an even worse year in 2024 for the JT.

Carlos Tavares doesn't even need to bring any lube to the party anymore.

I had to re-write this reply 3 4 times to not sound like a jerk, so I'm really not trying to sound like a jerk- if you knew me, you'd know I'd say this just about word for word if I was standing next to you saying it instead of sitting behind a keyboard:

The logic of yours that I quoted above is so far off base from how most car buyers operate that it must be addressed. If this logic were how car buying worked for the masses, you would regularly see a far more even mix of regular and top trim levels. Your morning commute would consist largely of BRaptors, Civic Rs, F-150 Raptor Rs, Camaro 2SS, Charger and Challenger Hellcats, Shelby GT Mustangs, and Wrangler 392 Rubicons. But you don't. Because a 2x multiplier on a base MSRP doesn't make people happy. It makes people go to a different vehicle.

The fact that a potential Gladiator buyer must now spend $20,000 more than they would have 2 years ago to get Overland level features- now only available in a Rubicon X- is silly. And sure, you were right that the absolute top, most spec'd-out model might be a bit cheaper this year. But that's paying $68k(!) for a mid-sized truck. Saying that it makes it an easier pill to swallow because the person interested in the Overland trim gets lockers... that they might use... is well, I don't get it.

Ford sells 770,000 F-150s a year. There are lockers on about 5% of them. Luxury features are standard in all but the lowest trim levels, and available at every level as options on F-150s. Jeep just removed those features for anyone not willing to buy features that they won't use. Its a forced moved- migrate to spend more, or go away.

Jeep is counting on people that have more money than sense to make up the bulk of the "X" purchases. It is going to destroy demand for the Gladiator because people who can accurately assess their needs and refuse to over-spec a vehicle are going to walk.

HAHA you didn't need to write it 3 or 4 times. I am a big boy and can handle the criticism, Hell you may be my next best friend lol.
I think you needed to add the whole thing for clear context.

I hear you on not being able to get things you only want. I guess I look at it as I get a little extra and maybe I will use it. You get it and don't need it or you don't get it and need it. Everyone has their reasons and I get it.

Most people do not drive off the dealer lot getting EXACTLY what they want. There's always a compromise in anything you buy. I am not a Falken tire fan, is that going to keep me from buying the Glad, nope. I will use them till I don't want them anymore. That was point.
So if the rubicon x does not suit your needs then you will have to compromise on getting something you might not want and enjoy what you have. And that's why everyone has their reasons for their choices.
written once and with smiles ??

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Dude they don't have their shit together... check this out @ShadowsPapa

Sport S standard:

Wait- Sport gets max tow option, Sport S comes with best in class cargo/payload capacity??
Someone said that max tow was only on the Sport, not Sport S for 24 but if the Sport S has that payload?

Most people do not drive off the dealer lot getting EXACTLY what they want. There's always a compromise in anything you buy. I am not a Falken tire fan, is that going to keep me from buying the Glad, nope. I will use them till I don't want them anymore. That was point.

Tires are nothing - where most of us are talking are larger things that either can't easily be added or can't at all, or it's too expensive (swapping a transfer case, adding ACC/FCW, etc.)
Yeah, we get what we want or we walk. The one exception was our JLU - it was literally impossible due to covid and other factors to get auto high beam and ACC/FCW in a JLU with all the other stuff my wife insisted on. But with her driving it's not a big deal at all.
Otherwise, I get what I want, or I leave. In most cases, I'm not in a "I must settle for......." situation.
For my 2022 - I got them to swap my 2020 tires onto the 2022 wheels and in the end, drove away with exactly what I wanted, nothing left out.
Now, however, Jeep has gotten things so screwed up it's just plain not even possible to match my list - can't be done. If this was November 2019, I'd likely not have a Gladiator at all. I bought back then only because they were able to match my list and nothing I didn't want was forced on me.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

ACC and FCW are listed as Standard on every 2024 model on the page. Whether or not they appear on the sticker is another story.

3 or 4 years ago, all of the major auto makers agreed that FCW with active braking would be standard - by September 2021 or maybe it was 2022. Covid and other factors (supply issues) screwed that up and in fact, it wasn't available at all even as an option for a while. The agreement held the feds off a bit with more strict rules. We'll do this if you don't do that sort of a thing.
Maybe we are there now?

 

[audibahn]

It looks like Sport gets max towing capacity while Sport S gets max payload:

From the 2024 Spec Sheet, Sport gets up to 1710lbs payload.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Holy cow - the starting base payload for an unloaded unoptioned Willys really is LOW.
I have more than that with an Overland loaded up with options.
By the time you put any options on that Willys, it's going to be in the 800s
(which is roughly where mine is with steel bumper, winch, and power steps)
Wow, they've really mixed things up.

That 950 is for a base Willys - you can bet the door stick payload number will be under that unless you buy one with no options. Manual likely gets you 50 pounds more because the manual is about that much lighter than the automatic.

 

[audibahn]

Looking more into Jeep documents, I don't know how much I trust them. They have conflicting information on their spec sheets, brochures, and website. Just look at the Rubicon and Mojave GAWR of 2,952. The 1710lbs payload was only available with the manual transmission in the past and is now assigned to the automatic.

The interns at Jeep have some cleaning up to do...

 

[Vtur]

Looking more into Jeep documents, I don't know how much I trust them. They have conflicting information on their spec sheets, brochures, and website. Just look at the Rubicon and Mojave GAWR of 2,952. The 1710lbs payload was only available with the manual transmission in the past and is now assigned to the automatic.

The interns at Jeep have some cleaning up to do...

Scripts were coded by AI ?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Scripts were coded by AI ?

If that AI is from microsoft - the solution is simple - reboot it.

 

[ecidiego]

If that AI is from microsoft - the solution is simple - reboot it.

3x

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I hear you on not being able to get things you only want. I guess I look at it as I get a little extra and maybe I will use it. You get it and don't need it or you don't get it and need it. Everyone has their reasons and I get it. I was trying to show that when guys/girls are looking at a 23 vs 24, it is cheaper. Believe me, I fought with myself not to grab a 23 back in December. I am happy that I didn't pull the trigger back then.
BTW, select trac is in the description in the Auto trans. If 4H auto mode is selected trac.

Yeah, looks like the X package.
A non-player at 70K for my configurations, and I don't want a locking axle, I want limited slip.
Can't get that on anything but the lower end models.
Sad what they've done.

 

[GHWillys]

This thread cracks me up. Do you not think they did any analysis of the vehicles they have sold in the past 3 model years? I get this is an enthusiast forum, but the people posting on here are probably less than 1% of all Gladiator buyers. It sucks, but Stellantis doesn't care what any of us think because it won't impact their bottom line all that much.
The majority of Gladiator and Jeep owners in general never drive on anything more challenging than a gravel driveway and buy Rubicons or Mojaves because it is a status symbol.

Full Disclosure: I am pretty much in the majority. I do not do any hardcore wheeling. 99% of my offroad driving with my Gladiator is on the beach of Assateague Island.

 

[ecidiego]

This thread cracks me up. Do you not think they did any analysis of the vehicles they have sold in the past 3 model years? I get this is an enthusiast forum, but the people posting on here are probably less than 1% of all Gladiator buyers. It sucks, but Stellantis doesn't care what any of us think because it won't impact their bottom line all that much.
The majority of Gladiator and Jeep owners in general never drive on anything more challenging than a gravel driveway and buy Rubicons or Mojaves because it is a status symbol.

Full Disclosure: I am pretty much in the majority. I do not do any hardcore wheeling. 99% of my offroad driving with my Gladiator is on the beach of Assateague Island.

Mojave
Status symbol

Pick 1

Sincerely,
Mojave owner

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