4xe Gladiator Hybrid (PHEV) Confirmed by Jeep CEO for 2025! ⚡️

[RubiNewbCB]

The gas tank will likely stay the same. All the back seat storage will be replaced with the battery pack and electronics.

There's not a lot space back there...
So we can probably expect shorter range at a heavier weight.

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[ShadowsPapa]

Thanks for proving my point. Significant loss of EV range in cold temperatures. So it’s 15 instead of 30 ?? not 10 MY BAD. Have the heat on full blast, go up a hill or through snow, I bet it’s down to 19 real fast! Go over 40mph, and not EV mode anymore. Sneeze and the engine kicks on.

Has to get down to 0 or below to lose that much. In the upper 20s and above, it's still 20+
We can hit 65 on the less hilly areas and stay in electric mode the whole time.
My wife's quilter friend 13 miles away, half of that is on 163, a 4 lane, 65 mph highway, and the ICE doesn't kick in.
It totally depends on the load. Wind, hills (and we live in sort of slightly hilly areas, Pleasant Hill has 4 and 5% grades on some streets, bicyclists come here to prep for RAGBRAI each summer due to the hills)
No, I didn't prove your point, you said 30s - still in the 20-25 range when in the 30s, it has to drop a lot more to really lose any range. In fact, I can't think of a time when we've gotten much less than 20, contrary to the nay-sayers out there who claim it's a battery killer. These have systems that keep the battery temperature up if you leave them plugged in and use remote start. How much extra power does that take? Not even a blip on the meter.

You ain’t driving anywhere only using EV power on a hybrid, nor especially in Iowa the winter on a hybrid. Maybe down the driveway!

HAHAHA - you literally make me LAUGH as we have proof to the contrary - owning one through two Iowa winters. All the way to Prairie City and back save for maybe a mile. In the dead of winter after it has sat outside all day not being plugged in, it comes back except for about 3 miles.
So 13 plus 10, that's 23 miles - in the winter. Hmmm, so much for your not getting down the driveway.

Hilarious how those who don't own a 4xe, have never driven one, and really know nothing more than what the media headlines claim are talking about PHEVs - they've likely never even sat in. These aren't the same as a hybrid. Can't put a PHEV in the same class.


TFL? I stopped paying attention to them when they totally fumbled and f'd up their talk on the 4xe. I mean talk about mistakes, bad info, and stumbling trying to figure things out while making the video. It was a clown show - far from facts and information. They've lost a lot of credence with me after that fiasco.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Some of you apparently have never driven a PHEV. A 35 mile electric range is an offset on MPG. Real life driving, you’d barely make it 35 miles in perfect weather, never going above 40, never accelerating, with no radio of AC/Heat on. There is almost no way you’re driving that 15 miles out and 15 miles back all electric in a Jeep.

The idea that it’s like an electric car for a little bit is sold with snake oil. The additional power and MPG is great but let’s be real here about how that is going to work. If they make the battery a bit larger with options for plugging in overland gear that would be awesome and a great selling point. I am 99% sure they won’t do that. Bigger chance the gladiator gets a slight upgrade in battery and features on the current 4xe platform and my guess is still that’s a low probability. Also, typically the charging aspect of the gas motor doesn’t charge fast enough to get that all electric range back, you have to plug it in at home. So the idea of running the gas as a sort of generator really doesn’t play out. Some hybrids do work that way. I think that ugly little BMW hybrid does. The gas motor isn’t even hooked to the drive train, is just charges the electric motor. I’m interested and hopeful. I’m just trying to keep my expectations in reality.

I mean a PHEv gladiator with 150 mile range with decent usable all electric power, 300jp/300tq and around 500 each with the gas turned on, ability to run overland gear would be game changing because there isn’t a hybrid that does anything close to that.

Man an efficient, cylinder shut off, 6 speed manual, hemi V8 would be SO much better. I could make almost 29mpg in my 300srt. I’d have to think the gladiator could make 24 pretty easy….but alas they won’t ever make it. The irony is my unicorn Gladiator above will likely still be more fuel efficient than the PHEV when the battery runs out when you’re not petering around town and out doing man stuff! The

With that crap, it's plain you have never driven a 4xe long-term.
You can easily go down the highway - depending on hills and wind (and the JLU is a ship with a big sail hoisted up in the wind) you can drive easily 65 for some distance. If the motor gets hot, ICE might kick in - or not. There's been plenty of times the ICE never came on.
We leave our HVAC on auto - that means it might be AC, might be heat, depending, and it's that way 365 days a year, winter or summer. Yes, when it's really cold you may lose some miles from the battery, but it's not that much. Still can do over 20 in the dead of winter with heat on, and lights on (we also leave our headlights on "auto" all the time, 365, day and night.
It's not as big a difference as you make it out to be, proving you have never driven a JEEP 4xe long-term, if at all.
For a typical owner, it's perfect - the only time it's not ideal is for longer commutes over maybe 50 miles round trip, but even then, that first 25 is for a buck 19 in the winter, and $1.79 in the summer. Who else can drive a Jeep Wrangler for 25 miles on less than 2 bucks?
That's mixed speeds, some hills, and you know that Iowa is one of the most windy states in the country, a meteorological fact.
I'd say our numbers range from about 20 to 26, depending on weather and other factors. I can't recall a time I've driven it where it was under 20.
With the hills, it's rather nice when it's not windy because letting off sees charge going back to the battery.

This isn't an EV, it's not even a plain hybrid, it's a PHEV, different class, and with the Jeep technology behind it, they really have this thing figured out.

As a member of 4xe forums for a while, I see I'm not at all alone in my observations.

 

[Alc]

Take a look at the brand new Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro and Trailhunter trim levels. That’s exactly what Toyota is doing and what the upcoming 4xe Gladiator will compete with.

So you’re saying the Tacomas are plug-in hybrids? That’s news to me. They are hybrids but not PHEV or like the Prius which uses its energy/battery for gas mileage. Instead, Toyota has downsized their archaic V6 to turbo4. That is where they are trying to gain efficiency. Then to supplement the power, specifically in high demand scenarios like towing/hills/quick starts, they use the battery and 48v motor. But no, Tacomas are not PHEVs.

 

[Texops]

I’ve been hearing that the new Tacomas with 35’s been running hot not even towing anything. Just saying if any mods to be done like big tires it makes you wonder.

 

[Texops]

 

[ArchEtech]

Let’s try this next winter Papa. When it’s 25deg out, go EV only with an empty tank, heater full blast, heated seats on, radio blasting, and normal half to 3/4 throttle acceleration - no babying! See how far you get and take video. ????.

No don’t do that, I’m just kidding. You don’t have anything to prove -we are all just having a conversation. I’m glad you like you 4xe. I like them too. Maybe they will upgrade for the Gladiator hybrid so it’s even better. Being larger it will have to get a bit more juice anyway.

Winter…..I’m more concerned about getting heated seats installed.

I haven’t driven the Tundra hybrid. I have driven a coworkers hybrid Ford F150 and that was pretty nice. He’s only getting 25mpg at best, which isn’t bad - it’s a big truck! Man those Max Tundra hybrids are $$$$. The Taco, Tundra and Ford are not plug ins.

 

[Mojave2021]

Curious how much EV only range it’ll get if I transfer over my heavy Black Rhino wheels and 35” Ridge Grapplers. I guess at least I’d have more power to push them than the V6. Will definitely test drive one if/when they come out. My commute is only 8 miles each way.

 

[bleda2002]

Curious how much EV only range it’ll get if I transfer over my heavy Black Rhino wheels and 35” Ridge Grapplers. I guess at least I’d have more power to push them than the V6. Will definitely test drive one if/when they come out. My commute is only 8 miles each way.

Wife is on 39s and kmc tank bead locks, electric only we lost about 1/3rd or the range we were getting but we also do full throttle from a stop light and no babying ?.

Where it really shines is just staying in hybrid mode, we average 22-25mpg city for the first 40-50 miles on those big ass tires. Comparatively I was getting 13 mpg in the same driving conditions on the same tires and I was a hell of a lot slower even with 5.13s.

People keep forgetting that when they are comparing an i4 hybrid for efficiency they need to compare it to a V8 or turbo 6 typically and not a low power na v6 or plain turbo 4. In the taco for example they are getting more power than the iForce 4.6 V8 and nearly as much as the 5.7 for basically na v6 mpgs.

In the JLU 4xe, the common dig is that it's basically the same mpg as the straight 2.0, but people seem to forget it's got 40% more HP and 80% more torque for 1 mpg worse.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Wife is on 39s and kmc tank bead locks, electric only we lost about 1/3rd or the range we were getting but we also do full throttle from a stop light and no babying ?.

Where it really shines is just staying in hybrid mode, we average 22-25mpg city for the first 40-50 miles on those big ass tires. Comparatively I was getting 13 mpg in the same driving conditions on the same tires and I was a hell of a lot slower even with 5.13s.

People keep forgetting that when they are comparing an i4 hybrid for efficiency they need to compare it to a V8 or turbo 6 typically and not a low power na v6 or plain turbo 4. In the taco for example they are getting more power than the iForce 4.6 V8 and nearly as much as the 5.7 for basically na v6 mpgs.

In the JLU 4xe, the common dig is that it's basically the same mpg as the straight 2.0, but people seem to forget it's got 40% more HP and 80% more torque for 1 mpg worse.

Very well said.
Even I forget and tend to compare to a 3.6 - for mpg and so on. That's wrong.
It's more like a V8 with comparable power and torque. And sticking a V8 in a JLU means sad mpg.
So we have a V8 JLU in a sense, but better economy.

I could look because I don't recall - but what's the ratio on the stock 4xe Rubicon?
the thing hardly shifted at all in the mountains compared to the exact same route with my JT - it was constantly shifting to make the grades. Not our 4xe.

 

[bleda2002]

I could look because I don't recall - but what's the ratio on the stock 4xe Rubicon?
the thing hardly shifted at all in the mountains compared to the exact same route with my JT - it was constantly shifting to make the grades. Not our 4xe.

4xe Rubicon is 4.10s, ours is actually a Sahara so 3.73s and it still absolutely roasts my gladiator at any speed and especially in the TN mountains where it just gave no shits. I also really like that the extra power let's me keep a relatively high strength pinion since it's 3.73s but still have gobs of torque.

Personally I'd still love a nice simple 5.7 hemi, but I'm a realist and I know that's a pipe dream so I won't turn my nose up at a 4xe gladiator.

 

[JTGuy]

If you want to add all the complex stuff to a vehicle that will be doing miles of washboard and water crossings while being way out of cell coverage go for it. Electric rates in So Cal are about 40cents + per KWH. The actual savings on a hybrid adding in the initial cost is in question.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

If you want to add all the complex stuff to a vehicle that will be doing miles of washboard and water crossings while being way out of cell coverage go for it. Electric rates in So Cal are about 40cents + per KWH. The actual savings on a hybrid adding in the initial cost is in question.

Yeah, but that offsets the crazy gas prices there, too.
Granted, it's easy here because our gas is about $3.30 and electricity in our case is among the cheapest in the country - 9 cents/kWh winter, about 12 cents/kWh in the summer, that means a battery charge is $1.19-$1.79 depending on time of year.

People look at how high things are in CA - but the wages are waaay higher than here so one can't compare without taking it all into account.

 

[Jobofly]

I'll admit I was in the camp that didn't ever believe we'd see a 4xe Gladiator.

I just don't understand who the demographic is for a 4xe midsize truck other than people who just want a truck "because".

I am happy for the folks that have been looking forward to this, though!

After seeing my wife get roughly 800 miles per tank of gas thanks to charging at home everyday and only driving local for work. I can’t wait for the gladiator 4xe

 

[ShadowsPapa]

After seeing my wife get roughly 800 miles per tank of gas thanks to charging at home everyday and only driving local for work. I can’t wait for the gladiator 4xe

Well, crap, that blows ours away.............I was feeling pretty good until I read your post.

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