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Gear ratio poll for 37” tires on 17” wheels 3.6 gasser

Best gearing for 37” tires, 17” wheels, 3.6 gasser


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I did the 4.88s a few months ago and they have been better than I ever hoped. The 8 speed trans works better than ever. Going with the 4.88s vs 5.13s would allow going back to 35 inch tires if desired and still have OK highway RPMs.
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I was just talking about this at work. I wonder how many people are running 37” on 3.73. I know it’s probably way more than we think.
 

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My 21 JTR has 456's on 37" BFG K02's witch we all know they don't actually measure 37" but anyway I run an average 16.5mpg with good power on and off road
 

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I was just talking about this at work. I wonder how many people are running 37” on 3.73. I know it’s probably way more than we think.
I did while I was waiting for gears and an appointment. Overdrive was nonexistent unless you were running 80+
 
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This poll results is getting interesting
 

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But when geared correctly it won't be in 6th gear at 65 unless your are climbing a huge grade or accelerating faster, so the number doesn't help anyone figure out anything.

Top gear is what almost everyone references in threads like this.

With the auto, 4.88 or 5.13s for 37s, unless there is a use case that pushes you out of those choices.
the trans gearing isn't entirely relevant nor is the RPM range. simply moving to diesel and rpm is automatically way to high. And engines have optimal points at different rpm based off their design. So simply walking in and saying you want 1800 rpm in 8th at 70mph and selecting a final drive to match won't work. the 3.6 doesn't make enough torque to do that. But a 6.4 Hemi would. So in the case of this generic list, it just a generic point for all road trucks as there are more cases than 8 speed auto Jeep Gladiators. everything has a 1:1 gear and usually 65mph capable. So thats the frame of reference albeit broad. But its designed to cover everything gas powered from Honda Accty to F250 Tremor gasser. So with our use case, we could say 5.13 is too high for 37s due too having an 8 speed. And if you went custom and got a hemi swap that would make it even more so. But if you had a manual gladiator, then that 5.13 make a bit more sense. But because there is that big of gap between a single model of truck. I got the list above as broad as possible as not to favor any particular variation. Its a ballpark, and a rough one, but close enough to help visualize the point im trying to get across.
 

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the trans gearing isn't entirely relevant nor is the RPM range. simply moving to diesel and rpm is automatically way to high. And engines have optimal points at different rpm based off their design. So simply walking in and saying you want 1800 rpm in 8th at 70mph and selecting a final drive to match won't work. the 3.6 doesn't make enough torque to do that. But a 6.4 Hemi would. So in the case of this generic list, it just a generic point for all road trucks as there are more cases than 8 speed auto Jeep Gladiators. everything has a 1:1 gear and usually 65mph capable. So thats the frame of reference albeit broad. But its designed to cover everything gas powered from Honda Accty to F250 Tremor gasser. So with our use case, we could say 5.13 is too high for 37s due too having an 8 speed. And if you went custom and got a hemi swap that would make it even more so. But if you had a manual gladiator, then that 5.13 make a bit more sense. But because there is that big of gap between a single model of truck. I got the list above as broad as possible as not to favor any particular variation. Its a ballpark, and a rough one, but close enough to help visualize the point im trying to get across.
That's precisely my point. These 3.6s make nothing usable below 2000rpm and the second stage of the oil pump kicks in at a tick under 3000rpm. So at highway speed you have no more than 1000rpm window to operate with. So you gear in top gear for the highway speed and load you plan on running. If you routinely drive 90mph for hours on end, gear for that. If you never hit 70, gear for that.

EDITED TO ADD, Since the poll is about 3.6 AUTO and 37s, that's what the answers refer to.
 

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That's precisely my point. These 3.6s make nothing usable below 2000rpm and the second stage of the oil pump kicks in at a tick under 3000rpm. So at highway speed you have no more than 1000rpm window to operate with. So you gear in top gear for the highway speed and load you plan on running. If you routinely drive 90mph for hours on end, gear for that. If you never hit 70, gear for that.
I get what ya mean. To me the 8 speed covers your bases more to be loose with end gearing. Manual not so much. I can squeeze 4.10 by just fine, but if I had a manual I'd be doing the headwork to decide what most of my driving is and then deciding between 4.88 or 5.13 from there.
 

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I get what ya mean. To me the 8 speed covers your bases more to be loose with end gearing. Manual not so much. I can squeeze 4.10 by just fine, but if I had a manual I'd be doing the headwork to decide what most of my driving is and then deciding between 4.88 or 5.13 from there.
100% correct. Mine is a manual and I hit the second stage of the oil pump at 85. There are a few highways near me where that is the speed limit, so I camp in the slow lane with the cruise on.

4.10s are fine on the 8spd, so are 4.56s, 4.88s and 5.13s. Use case does matter too. Towing changes the requirement and I'd default to 5.13s or 5.38s. Elevation and curb weight all need to be considered as well.
 

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The difference between 4.88 and 4.56 in top gear at 85 is about 150rpm. And 4.88s in 8th are not much different than your 4.10s at 85 in 7th.
7th with 4.10s is almost identical to 5.13s in 8th...but under low loads I still have the nice low rpms of 8th with 4.10s and the deep geared guy doesn't. 7th is still an overdrive and equal to the top gear in a JK with an auto. I don't want to be in 8th all the time personally. I'm my opinion that's not the purpose of a transmission with 8 speeds and 2 overdrives. In reality this trans had such a huge spread you can get away with almost any gearing. Even factory you can get everything from a JL sport on 32s with 3.45s to an XR with 4 56s and 35s to a Rubicon or mojave with 4.10s and 33s further proving my point. 3.45s and 32s is equivalent to 4.10s and 37s ie my mojave drives, shifts, etc like a stock sport. Our JLUR with the xr package felt over geared in the stock 35s at freeway speed. Not overly so but not optimal. Our 4.7 1st gear makes 4.10s equivalent to a JK with 5.41s. Nobody ran deeper gears than that on a JK on 37s and yet everyone thinks the JL/JT needs more gearing for 37s. It flat does not.
 

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7th with 4.10s is almost identical to 5.13s in 8th...but under low loads I still have the nice low rpms of 8th with 4.10s and the deep geared guy doesn't. 7th is still an overdrive and equal to the top gear in a JK with an auto. I don't want to be in 8th all the time personally. I'm my opinion that's not the purpose of a transmission with 8 speeds and 2 overdrives. In reality this trans had such a huge spread you can get away with almost any gearing. Even factory you can get everything from a JL sport on 32s with 3.45s to an XR with 4 56s and 35s to a Rubicon or mojave with 4.10s and 33s further proving my point. 3.45s and 32s is equivalent to 4.10s and 37s ie my mojave drives, shifts, etc like a stock sport. Our JLUR with the xr package felt over geared in the stock 35s at freeway speed. Not overly so but not optimal. Our 4.7 1st gear makes 4.10s equivalent to a JK with 5.41s. Nobody ran deeper gears than that on a JK on 37s and yet everyone thinks the JL/JT needs more gearing for 37s. It flat does not.
All of those things are correct. And you are one of those guys that seems to be ok with running in 7th gear as needed. Some people it drives crazy..
 

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How do you feel it drove before regearing?
Mine is a manual, so different animal. All the autos that I wheel with are rubicons, so never apples to apples.

That being said, with 3.73s and 37s, first gear sucked, and second and third were an absolute blast. After that it was a 4 speed until I hit 80. And I'd still have to downshift on little hills which is absolutely annoying when you are trying to use cruise control.
 

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I voted 5.13. Running “37” KO2 on 17” wheels. Couldn’t be happier.
All of those things are correct. And you are one of those guys that seems to be ok with running in 7th gear as needed. Some people it drives crazy..
I paid for 8 gears and I want to use all 8!

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