How much weight does it take to sag a Mojave

[ColoradoCantu]

I experienced about 2 inches of sag when I add steel front and rear bumpers, winch, Smartcap, Frontrunner roof rack, a high lift and recovery tools. You can see it in my profile pic. Thats without camping gear, family and dogs, so stock suspension wasn't going to cut it. I was hitting my bump stops on speed bumps. I went with Dobinson 3in lift with rear springs rated for 880-1210 lbs and I believe the front are 200+lbs and Dobinson 3 way adjustable shocks, Metal Cloak F/R control arms and F/R tack bars and Rubicon express sway bar disconnects. The handling and driving improved dramatically. No more lean when turning with speed, no more bobble heading when going over any bumps or dips. I can soften or stiffen the shocks as needed. Heres a pic after the lift. I measured before and after and my 3in lift brought up about 5 inches, corrected 2in sag with 3in lift. Super happy with my choice, although it was not a cheap solution.

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[Bjeepz]

I was about to post this question for the front end of the mojave because I'm about to add some pounds in the form of a steel stubby bumper and winch with synthetic line.

My impression is maybe a half inch drop, which I wouldn't notice visually but if it's going to make steering any sloppier than already or cause other issues, is it the same kind of solutions already being suggested in this thread?

If you find the steering loose/wandering at any speed needing constant correction a pair of Mopar lift kit lower control arms will help that.

 

[Zachanadandy]

I believe the rear springs are 170lbs/inch and the fronts are 155lbs/inch. Adding 340 pounds to the rear should therefore cause 1" of sag assuming 100% of that new weight is on the rear axle. If you want to combat the sag from just adding the cap and tent I'd add 1" rear spacers. Most models sit about 1" to 1.5" high in the rear stock so it should actually level the truck.

 

[Zachanadandy]

What is the stock rear spring rate for a Mojave? Around 160 lbs/in or so give or take 10 lbs/in?

All the weight you're adding is pretty much centered over the rear springs.

I'd expect about 1/2" of sag.

I'm not a mathematician, but if you center 320 lbs over 2x160lb/inch springs you should see 1" of sag shouldn't you? He's adding 310lbs so maybe 15/16"?

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

I'm not a mathematician, but if you center 320 lbs over 2x160lb/inch springs you should see 1" of sag shouldn't you? He's adding 310lbs so maybe 15/16"?

Whoops, thanks for pointing that out. You are correct.

(And I'm a numbers guy )

 

[MVTV]

Just put the canopy and RTT on. Just under an inch of sag.

I plan on putting an AEV lift kit and Clayton springs in the rear. That way I keep the Fox shocks and stock stance. Thanks everyone!

 

[Mtpisgah]

Just put the canopy and RTT on. Just under an inch of sag.

I plan on putting an AEV lift kit and Clayton springs in the rear. That way I keep the Fox shocks and stock stance. Thanks everyone!

Pictures or it didn't happen.

 

[MVTV]

 

[Mtpisgah]

Nice. I miss having my ACCC sometimes, but we were not using it enough to justify keeping it on the truck.

 

[Stan H]

I’m installing an Alu-Cab contour canopy (136 pounds) and a Alu-Cab 3R roof top tent (167 pounds) on my 2023 Mojave. Will adding 310 pounds (round up) sag the rear? Research shows the big campers do create sag but not sure if 310 pound setup would.

And if so, what are the do’s and don’ts for fixing it while keeping Fox shocks.

Many thanks

310.1 pounds !

 

[Toten Unterhosen]

I didn't measure the sag, but I know it existed after adding an Alu-Cab canopy, Alu-Cab gen3 tent, and a 270 awning to my stock 2021 Mojave.

While anecdotal, when driving at night with the Alu-Cab goodies mounted I started getting "flashed" by folks thinking I had my brights on. And it only got worse when I started loading it up.

I recall one trip that had a fair bit night driving in central Oregon and it wouldn't be an exaggeration to say 75-80% of the folks heading the other way, including semis, let me know my "brights" were on.

Just something else to keep in mind...

 

[Bjeepz]

I didn't measure the sag, but I know it existed after adding an Alu-Cab canopy, Alu-Cab gen3 tent, and a 270 awning to my stock 2021 Mojave.

While anecdotal, when driving at night with the Alu-Cab goodies mounted I started getting "flashed" by folks thinking I had my brights on. And it only got worse when I started loading it up.

I recall one trip that had a fair bit night driving in central Oregon and it wouldn't be an exaggeration to say 75-80% of the folks heading the other way, including semis, let me know my "brights" were on.

Just something else to keep in mind...

You can adjust your headlights so they point down a bit to relieve this for you and other drivers.

 

[MVTV]

At the end of August I’ll be adding AEV 2” lift (no spacer in the rear) and 2.5” HD Clayton rear springs. It’ll give me about an 1.5” lift and correct the sag. Then when I load up for camping it’ll have a little room to sag but the HD springs should handle it well. I’ll send an update once it’s done.

Definitely gonna need to put 35s on as it’ll look a little odd with 33.

 

[Bjeepz]

37’s……!!

 

[ColoradoCantu]

I didn't measure the sag, but I know it existed after adding an Alu-Cab canopy, Alu-Cab gen3 tent, and a 270 awning to my stock 2021 Mojave.

While anecdotal, when driving at night with the Alu-Cab goodies mounted I started getting "flashed" by folks thinking I had my brights on. And it only got worse when I started loading it up.

I recall one trip that had a fair bit night driving in central Oregon and it wouldn't be an exaggeration to say 75-80% of the folks heading the other way, including semis, let me know my "brights" were on.

Just something else to keep in mind...

I just Flash them back so they know I'm not on brights, I almost expect it when I see small or low riding cars.

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