Stellantis Q3 2024 Sales Numbers

[Wheelin98TJ]

VERY reliable, 110K when I traded.
20 mpg average with a 2017 Coyote 4x4 Supercrew.

I’m a 5.0 fan even though my 2020 got a new one under warranty at 28k miles.

It is usually reliable, makes great power, and sounds awesome.

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[Firebird]

Ford still has the 5.0.

Great engine!

 

[Sandman 4x4]

Last I checked the V8 option is really pretty much down to Chevy now. Toyota, Nissan and now Ram have all moved away from V8s as of the MY25 trucks. Sucks. Im sure I've forgotten something out there, but its now a rarity.

I think the top tier mid size options (Rubicon, Mojave, TRD Pro, Trail Boss) skew the price market a bit. Entry to mid grade full size with 4WD pretty much retail at the low 50k area now. There's always an overlap in top tier mid size and entry level full size. My 2021 Tundra TRD OR cost less than my 2018 Tacoma TRD OR.

I agree otherwise though and the only reason I'm in the JTM is because of intended use. I miss a full size bed and power everyday, but off road was stressful, so was the city. Its really personalized though, I'd agree fully with you all day if the option was full size vs a Tacoma, having owned two. I really love my JTM though, and that does bias my perspective.

Toyota's not learning much it seems though, fully opted Tacoma Pro is now 65.5k with no options. In my area, good luck finding one w/o mark up.

You left out the F150 5.0 V8! But you’re correct about Chevy, they offer two V8 options, 5.3,6.2. The best value if you want a full size? Is a Chevy 1500 Silverado Trail Boss 6.2 V8. That’s thousands less than toy trd pro.

 

[Flanders]

24 Tacoma numbers should be taken as an outlier. MY23 to MY24 is a generation change and Toyota had a lapse in delivery for a while...

True, and Tacoma's lost sales account for more than 100% of the YTD segment drop. It's quite possible that 2024 mid-size pickup sales will end up with an increase over 2023. Tacoma is about 40% of the segment and a decent Q4 for Taco is all it would take to erase the deficit.

I mentioned the 2024 delay last quarter and (incorrectly I think now) predicted they'd make up most of that:

The 2024 Tacoma was delayed. I expect they'll end up selling over 200k for the year.

But Q3 sales fell short of last year and even 190k for the year is looking unlikely, vs 234,768 for 2023.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Last I checked the V8 option is really pretty much down to Chevy now. Toyota, Nissan and now Ram have all moved away from V8s as of the MY25 trucks. Sucks. Im sure I've forgotten something out there, but its now a rarity.

GM has pushrod V8's scheduled through the 2030's.

Ford has pushrod V8's scheduled into the 2030's.

The GME-T6 will walk any lifter ticking, cracked manifold Hemi anyway.

 

[Sandman 4x4]

GM has pushrod V8's scheduled through the 2030's.

Ford has pushrod V8's scheduled into the 2030's.

The GME-T6 will walk any lifter ticking, cracked manifold Hemi anyway.

One out of three means you must do more homework. Ford last I checked hasn’t made a pushrod engine for years now. The T6? Won’t walk from a HellCat or SRT Durango.

 

[Flanders]

One out of three means you must do more homework. Ford last I checked hasn’t made a pushrod engine for years now.

Ford has a 7.3L pushrod V8 in their Super Duty line since 2020 and a 6.8L variant since 2023.

 

[Geoarch]

Honda killing it. Wonder why that is?

Reliability and price.

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