Stock Height Suspension Upgrade for JTR

[ShadowsPapa]

When I take my YJ offroad I am usually the slowest of the group. I tell people I want to get there in one piece, with my teeth still attached and being able to hear.

The things we endure for our vehicles......

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[Rusty PW]

When I take my YJ offroad I am usually the slowest of the group. I tell people I want to get there in one piece, with my teeth still attached and being able to hear.

I hear you. We have one guy with a long arm Power Wagon in the group with deep pockets. He lead foot's it everywhere. We let him lead and get into trouble first.

 

[MudderNuker]

The things we endure for our vehicles......

Yup. Still love my YJ.

 

[kevman65]

If you want to upgrade without going to a lift, then yes, the Synergy +1" coils and some quality shocks.

Keep in mind, the Fox shocks that came with your Rubi and what you buy from Fox are completely different shocks. The OEM shocks are a spec build using FCA numbers, the aftermarket Fox are their specs.

 

[BlackDog]

If you want to upgrade without going to a lift, then yes, the Synergy +1" coils and some quality shocks.

Keep in mind, the Fox shocks that came with your Rubi and what you buy from Fox are completely different shocks. The OEM shocks are a spec build using FCA numbers, the aftermarket Fox are their specs.

Thanks for the advice. Do you have experience with the Synergy coils?

Yep, fully aware of the Fox shocks. They were replaced when my springs were replaced and I thought I'd wait until they go out to upgrade. I'm obviously rethinking that decision.

 

[ross neill]

What I understand is as long as lift is under 1 1/2 inch say bar links and shocks stay the same

 

[kevman65]

Thanks for the advice. Do you have experience with the Synergy coils?

Yep, fully aware of the Fox shocks. They were replaced when my springs were replaced and I thought I'd wait until they go out to upgrade. I'm obviously rethinking that decision.

Synergy coils on my JT, no.
But I have on previous vehicles.
I have multiple Synergy parts across my front end and am extremely happy with their performance.

The Synergy coils are a touch stiffer than factory coils on a Rubi. Pair that with a medium tier shock and you should be happy with the combination.
The beauty of going this route, you don't have to change anything else.

 

[BlackDog]

Synergy coils on my JT, no.
But I have on previous vehicles.
I have multiple Synergy parts across my front end and am extremely happy with their performance.

The Synergy coils are a touch stiffer than factory coils on a Rubi. Pair that with a medium tier shock and you should be happy with the combination.
The beauty of going this route, you don't have to change anything else.

Sounds like what I'm looking for. Thanks for the recommendation.

 

[Rusty PW]

Clayton has springs that lift 1.5" for a gasser, and they lift a diesel about 1". I was the beta tester for them on my diesel. They are a little stiffer than stock. Still uses stock shocks and sway bar links.

https://www.claytonoffroad.com/prod...-jeep-gladiator-jt-05-lift-front-coil-springs

 

[Main Line Willys]

I would call @Clayton Off Road
I believe they offer a stiffer spring with absolute minimal lift.

 

[Main Line Willys]

Ha @Rusty PW posted as I was typing

 

[BlackDog]

Clayton has springs that lift 1.5" for a gasser, and they lift a diesel about 1". I was the beta tester for them on my diesel. They are a little stiffer than stock. Still uses stock shocks and sway bar links.

https://www.claytonoffroad.com/prod...-jeep-gladiator-jt-05-lift-front-coil-springs

Any insight into why they specifically list only the diesel JT and omit gas?

 

[Rusty PW]

Any insight into why they specifically list only the diesel JT and omit gas?

Don't know. But with talks with them. The JL and JT gas are the same.

 

[BlackDog]

Don't know. But with talks with them. The JL and JT gas are the same.

Yeah, seems odd. Oh well. I'll reach out, thanks.

 

[Badunit]

I felt the rear springs/shocks on my '23 JTR were too soft on the road. It was unbalanced front to rear whenever I hit a dip in the road and the soft rear suspension affected the steering whenever there was a road imperfection. It wallowed like driving a pickup with an overweight high-centered load, except I was driving around empty. I thought it was the coils but I tried shocks first (Fox 2.0 then Bilstein 5100's). They didn't make much difference. Replacing the rear coils with Max Tow coils (used from eBay) made a night and day difference. I still have the Bilstein shocks on it because they have better road manners, for someone who likes a truck that rides like a truck.

I can't say what it did to off-road capabilities (articulation/traction) or load carrying (squat). The most I've done recently is drive around a farm. Empty mine sits about how it did with the Rubicon coils. I wish the spring lengths and rates were published somewhere so a real comparison could be made to calculate ride height and spring length under various loads but I've not found anything.

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