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I can see you like mystery and subtle understatement.

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Yeah, I thought a lot about removing the Mojave stickers, but they don't look right with nothing there, and I'm not sure I could come up with anything else to replace them. Maybe "RENEGADE". Obviously I lack the creativity to come up with something on my own.
 

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I was able to get around this by installing a CARB certified E-Rod LS3 engine in my 1977 Trans Am. But they’re only allowed to be installed in vehicles pre 1995 (no idea why they selected that year).

You need to work very closely with a state smog ref before throwing $s down on an engine swap. There are some ways to get them approved but not something to do after the purchase and swap completion. I don’t hear much about approved CA swaps though, so I’m curious how many are really approved.
The 1996 year was the first official year OBD2.
 

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Great - would like one; however, PA Emissions Inspection will be an issue. What other states would this be an issue? Inquiring minds want to know.
What’s the issue in PA? Why would a 5.7 fail emissions ?
 

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Especially the 1st gens lol
i am sure all the sand works wonders for the turbos in the 2nd gens too. I will admit i don't know much about the Raptor performance issues but have seen some pretty crazy broken frames from it. Seen Gladiator broken frames too.
 

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Yeah, I thought a lot about removing the Mojave stickers, but they don't look right with nothing there, and I'm not sure I could come up with anything else to replace them. Maybe "RENEGADE". Obviously I lack the creativity to come up with something on my own.
"MOJAVE" is vastly better than some of the "How drunk were you when you ordered that?" stickers I have seen on hoods. 😂
 

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I know we all like to banter, but I think going with the 5.7 V8 is a good move for Gladiator. It will set the JT apart from the competition by have a V8 option. The 3.6 is adequate for stock, but not so much for kitted rigs that to travel at high elevation.

I plan to put a full AluCab build out in the back and often travel at 11,000+. With 37s tires, even with a regear, I will definitely appreciate a little more power.

As for gas mileage, I just don't have a feel for if the extra power will help or hurt compared to a 3.6. Even though I do put a lot of miles on a vehicle, I don't really think about bad gas mileage. To compensate, I'll run the Long Ranger.

I'd expect this to be expensive from Jeep, but I'd rather have the 5.7. I just hope the '41 color is still offered if they release that engine.
 

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I know we all like to banter, but I think going with the 5.7 V8 is a good move for Gladiator. It will set the JT apart from the competition by have a V8 option. The 3.6 is adequate for stock, but not so much for kitted rigs that to travel at high elevation.

I plan to put a full AluCab build out in the back and often travel at 11,000+. With 37s tires, even with a regear, I will definitely appreciate a little more power.

As for gas mileage, I just don't have a feel for if the extra power will help or hurt compared to a 3.6. Even though I do put a lot of miles on a vehicle, I don't really think about bad gas mileage. To compensate, I'll run the Long Ranger.

I'd expect this to be expensive from Jeep, but I'd rather have the 5.7. I just hope the '41 color is still offered if they release that engine.
The 5.7 will be great for the Gladiator, as long as it's factory-installed. Buying it after the fact for $40k is not what the Gladiator needs. I'm sure there are some one percenters with nothing better to do with their money who will pay $40k to swap in a 5.7. Those guys will drive those trucks for 6 months then sell them on BaT for huge losses.
 

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The 5.7 will be great for the Gladiator, as long as it's factory-installed. Buying it after the fact for $40k is not what the Gladiator needs. I'm sure there are some one percenters with nothing better to do with their money who will pay $40k to swap in a 5.7. Those guys will drive those trucks for 6 months then sell them on BaT for huge losses.
Plus, if I was going to do this, I would actually have a AMW do the engine and transmission only, then take it south an hour to AEV and have them do the full AEV 370 build using the springs from the diesel.
 

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IMHO why do you want a bigger engine with more weight in a vehicle that is designed for lightweight off-road capabilities? I have had all manner of pickups and the 3.6 Gladiator has plenty of power where it is needed. The transfer case low side is there for a reason. The V-8's they do it but ya got to romp. The big diesels have to have huge lifts and huge tires to stay up on top of the mud. These lightweight gladiators with bigger tires just go and Go and GO !!. To each his own but the 3.6L is nearly perfect for what it is designed to do.
 
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The 3.6 is great until it eats s a cam.
 

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I really hope that mine doesn't eat one. But my trans is starting to really act up in the morning when cold. Trans shift goes 1-2-3 oK THEN 3-4A few times with a bump. When warm it's all ok.
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