Sponsored

2026 Jeep JT Hybrid

D_JT

Well-Known Member
First Name
Travis
Joined
Jul 29, 2020
Threads
2
Messages
456
Reaction score
868
Location
New Mexico
Vehicle(s)
23 JT Rubi diesel, 19 JL Rubi, 00 TJ, 48 CJ2A
I'm sorry you were forced into buying something. blink twice if you need help...
Oh god no. I'd never buy a Prius Jeep. I bought a diesel. Which I had to order because you know, all of the surrounding dealerships including nearby towns, 90% of their inventory was 4Xe's.
Sponsored

 

ShadowsPapa

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bill
Joined
Oct 12, 2019
Threads
247
Messages
40,465
Reaction score
53,924
Location
Runnells, Iowa
Vehicle(s)
'25 JTMX, '23 JLU 4xe, '82 SX4, '73 Javelin
Occupation
Retired auto mechanic, frmr gov't ntwrk security admin
Vehicle Showcase
3
Oh god no. I'd never buy a Prius Jeep. I bought a diesel. Which I had to order because you know, all of the surrounding dealerships including nearby towns, 90% of their inventory was 4Xe's.
I guess you are so slanted you've not taken the time to learn anything about the 4xe. It's not even close to a Prius in any way. It's a PHEV with massive HP and torque.
And when you've gone below the 1% mark, you still have the power of the electric working for you, killer torque as fast as you can hit the pedal, and beyond the power of the 2.0 - which some Jeep Wranglers have all by themselves and do fine.
There's a reason the 4xe has been a hot seller, even in Iowa, ironically, as we prefer our corn mash for fuel.
 

biodiesel

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 8, 2018
Threads
15
Messages
2,298
Reaction score
2,980
Location
New Mexico
Vehicle(s)
2015 Ram 1500 Ecodiesel
Oh god no. I'd never buy a Prius Jeep. I bought a diesel. Which I had to order because you know, all of the surrounding dealerships including nearby towns, 90% of their inventory was 4Xe's.
I knew I liked you, then I looked over and saw that you're from New Mexico!

If you can believe this, our small town just built a brand-new Jeep/Dodge/Ram/Chrysler dealership in the 2021/2022 timeframe. The owners already owned a Toyota and Chevrolet dealership, so they had the Chrysler dealership built on the same land.

Last year, the owner called Stellantis and told them they were permanently closing down due to all the 4xes that were being sent. The owner explained that we are located in one of the most rural places in the United States and that nobody wants a 4xe.

As soon as Stellantis got rid of Carlos Tavares, they called the dealership back and begged them to reopen the Jeep/Dodge/Ram/Chrysler dealership, but the owner said no way. It's sad for two reasons. (1) A brand-new dealership got turned into a repair center for all makes and models. (2) My closest dealer is now 2 hours away. What I can tell you is that Carlos Tavares hurt the brand and set Chrysler back by years.
 

ShadowsPapa

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bill
Joined
Oct 12, 2019
Threads
247
Messages
40,465
Reaction score
53,924
Location
Runnells, Iowa
Vehicle(s)
'25 JTMX, '23 JLU 4xe, '82 SX4, '73 Javelin
Occupation
Retired auto mechanic, frmr gov't ntwrk security admin
Vehicle Showcase
3
The owner explained that we are located in one of the most rural places in the United States and that nobody wants a 4xe.
We drove straight through St. Augustine, Fl to Des Moines, IA in a 4xe.
Talk about rural areas and a long trip - over 20 hours driving.
All of that time, never charged it, never gave it a rest of over a few minutes. Super power in the mountains. It hardly ever downshifted at all compared to a 3.6. The 3.6 would have to drop 2 or 3 gears down at a time - the 4xe didn't even let out a whimper - it just climbed and climbed, more power than a 3.6 could dream of.
I guess people don't get 'hybrid". There are very few charging stations in Iowa and parts are pretty rural - miles with no town - we do fine.
You do have to stop for gas now and then, but you don't have to charge it - ever, if you don't want to. You still have massive power and HP.

Yeah, people just don't want to understand the concept, and think if there's a plug there's a limited range or something or that if you don't charge it, you don't have any power. Both very untrue.
 

Sponsored

MPMB

Well-Known Member
First Name
Michael
Joined
Apr 30, 2021
Threads
12
Messages
1,820
Reaction score
2,716
Location
Utah
Vehicle(s)
'21 JTR - SG
Occupation
Check your inbox.
We drove straight through St. Augustine, Fl to Des Moines, IA in a 4xe.
Talk about rural areas and a long trip - over 20 hours driving.
All of that time, never charged it, never gave it a rest of over a few minutes. Super power in the mountains. It hardly ever downshifted at all compared to a 3.6. The 3.6 would have to drop 2 or 3 gears down at a time - the 4xe didn't even let out a whimper - it just climbed and climbed, more power than a 3.6 could dream of.
I guess people don't get 'hybrid". There are very few charging stations in Iowa and parts are pretty rural - miles with no town - we do fine.
You do have to stop for gas now and then, but you don't have to charge it - ever, if you don't want to. You still have massive power and HP.

Yeah, people just don't want to understand the concept, and think if there's a plug there's a limited range or something or that if you don't charge it, you don't have any power. Both very untrue.
The public would have been more receptive to EV vehicles had "we" started to push hybrids and market the HP-equivalent out the wazoo.

I'd rather have a hybrid than pure EV. Our travel tendencies make EVs pointless.

I think there are a lot of 4xe in the rental programs over retail sales.
 

D_JT

Well-Known Member
First Name
Travis
Joined
Jul 29, 2020
Threads
2
Messages
456
Reaction score
868
Location
New Mexico
Vehicle(s)
23 JT Rubi diesel, 19 JL Rubi, 00 TJ, 48 CJ2A
I guess you are so slanted you've not taken the time to learn anything about the 4xe. It's not even close to a Prius in any way. It's a PHEV with massive HP and torque.
And when you've gone below the 1% mark, you still have the power of the electric working for you, killer torque as fast as you can hit the pedal, and beyond the power of the 2.0 - which some Jeep Wranglers have all by themselves and do fine.
There's a reason the 4xe has been a hot seller, even in Iowa, ironically, as we prefer our corn mash for fuel.
As I said in previous comment. I was far from impressed with the 4Xe Grand Cherokee I had as loner. With my commute it did nothing for me. And when the battery dropped below 15%, the electric motor did little to nothing. The car very much relied on the gas motor at 15% charge or less. (it only had 12K miles). And I know its not close to a Prius lol. I only said it because I knew it would get you 😁. Just poking fun is all. The 4Xe has its place. Just not with me. And also, as I've said. I wonder how it would truly would sell if Jeep didn't push it on dealers, as @biodiesel just proved.

Last year, the owner called Stellantis and told them they were permanently closing down due to all the 4xes that were being sent. The owner explained that we are located in one of the most rural places in the United States and that nobody wants a 4xe.
 

Zachanadandy

Well-Known Member
First Name
Zach
Joined
Oct 17, 2023
Threads
4
Messages
3,023
Reaction score
4,783
Location
Patterson, ca
Vehicle(s)
2023 gladiator Mojave
Occupation
Electrical foreman
As I said in previous comment. I was far from impressed with the 4Xe Grand Cherokee I had as loner. With my commute it did nothing for me. And when the battery dropped below 15%, the electric motor did little to nothing. The car very much relied on the gas motor at 15% charge or less. (it only had 12K miles). And I know its not close to a Prius lol. I only said it because I knew it would get you 😁. Just poking fun is all. The 4Xe has its place. Just not with me. And also, as I've said. I wonder how it would truly would sell if Jeep didn't push it on dealers, as @biodiesel just proved.
Tell us you have no idea how it works without telling us you have no idea. The electric motor always works. Until you're down to >1% you can still run in all electric mode. Once you get to >1% on the dash there's actually about 15% left if you charge on a charger that reports total kWhr charge. You'll see about 15kW max into the 17.5kW battery because the vehicle makes sure you have the extra power when needed.
 

ShadowsPapa

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bill
Joined
Oct 12, 2019
Threads
247
Messages
40,465
Reaction score
53,924
Location
Runnells, Iowa
Vehicle(s)
'25 JTMX, '23 JLU 4xe, '82 SX4, '73 Javelin
Occupation
Retired auto mechanic, frmr gov't ntwrk security admin
Vehicle Showcase
3
With my commute it did nothing for me. And when the battery dropped below 15%, the electric motor did little to nothing. The car very much relied on the gas motor at 15% charge or less.
Bring it here to Stew Hansens where they actually understand those systems. There is no reason in the world for it to lose power. THAT ONE had a problem.
The problem is people judging all by one.
That one was broken. You get full hybrid all the way down under 1%

My wife drives here on PURE ELECTRIC all the way down to <1%, then it kicks into hybrid and you really have power as they work together. (they don't display anything under 1%, only a <1% symbol showing you don't have pure electric mode any more)

Yeah, that one was broken, sorry you got a lemon to judge them all by. Sort of like visiting a hospital and suggesting all humans are weak and sick because all that you see are laying in bed.
 

ShadowsPapa

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bill
Joined
Oct 12, 2019
Threads
247
Messages
40,465
Reaction score
53,924
Location
Runnells, Iowa
Vehicle(s)
'25 JTMX, '23 JLU 4xe, '82 SX4, '73 Javelin
Occupation
Retired auto mechanic, frmr gov't ntwrk security admin
Vehicle Showcase
3
Tell us you have no idea how it works without telling us you have no idea. The electric motor always works. Until you're down to >1% you can still run in all electric mode. Once you get to >1% on the dash there's actually about 15% left if you charge on a charger that reports total kWhr charge. You'll see about 15kW max into the 17.5kW battery because the vehicle makes sure you have the extra power when needed.
Took me a couple of days to see that as I kept wondering what was, wrong - it never wanted to charge over about 14-15kW on the graphs! It must be broken! The battery is bigger than that........ then comes out the pencil and paper and oh, now I get it - it reserves that for hybrid mode.
 

Sponsored

D_JT

Well-Known Member
First Name
Travis
Joined
Jul 29, 2020
Threads
2
Messages
456
Reaction score
868
Location
New Mexico
Vehicle(s)
23 JT Rubi diesel, 19 JL Rubi, 00 TJ, 48 CJ2A
Due to CEO changes, political regulation changes and lack of sales. I highly doubt there will be a PHEV Gladiator. And I'm ok with that. With the unofficial announcement of the 392 coming to the Gladiator and Stellantis in general shifting back to V8's. I don't see them investing in hybrids as much.
To add... As of a few weeks ago, Stellantis has stopped production of the full electric Charger. And as of this week. They have also canceled the full electric Ram truck. Further suggesting they wont make a 4Xe Gladiator. But I very well could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time.
 

Andy@AAV

Active Member
First Name
Andy
Joined
Apr 21, 2020
Threads
0
Messages
35
Reaction score
35
Location
Virginia
Vehicle(s)
2022 Wrangler 4XE Rubicon
Occupation
Engineer
The extended range electric “Ramcharger” has been renamed to “Ram REX” and is still in development. The BEV trucks are getting dumped but the hybrid lives on.
 

ShadowsPapa

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bill
Joined
Oct 12, 2019
Threads
247
Messages
40,465
Reaction score
53,924
Location
Runnells, Iowa
Vehicle(s)
'25 JTMX, '23 JLU 4xe, '82 SX4, '73 Javelin
Occupation
Retired auto mechanic, frmr gov't ntwrk security admin
Vehicle Showcase
3
To add... As of a few weeks ago, Stellantis has stopped production of the full electric Charger. And as of this week. They have also canceled the full electric Ram truck. Further suggesting they wont make a 4Xe Gladiator. But I very well could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time.
The 4xe is a hybrid.
Cancelling full EV projects can be very different - range, batteries, drivetrain, etc.

I get cancelling the full EV Ram truck - unless it can maintain full payload and towing - and a decent range, it's a toy.
 

ShadowsPapa

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bill
Joined
Oct 12, 2019
Threads
247
Messages
40,465
Reaction score
53,924
Location
Runnells, Iowa
Vehicle(s)
'25 JTMX, '23 JLU 4xe, '82 SX4, '73 Javelin
Occupation
Retired auto mechanic, frmr gov't ntwrk security admin
Vehicle Showcase
3
If one cares for details, you can actually view the whole 4xe power train on the radio screen - what power is coming from where or going to where, at any given time.

The screen will only ever display down to <1% - not sure where the 15% is coming in other than what's left by calculations.
 

Zachanadandy

Well-Known Member
First Name
Zach
Joined
Oct 17, 2023
Threads
4
Messages
3,023
Reaction score
4,783
Location
Patterson, ca
Vehicle(s)
2023 gladiator Mojave
Occupation
Electrical foreman
The 4xe is a hybrid.
Cancelling full EV projects can be very different - range, batteries, drivetrain, etc.

I get cancelling the full EV Ram truck - unless it can maintain full payload and towing - and a decent range, it's a toy.
Being the only one of the big 3 that can't seem to bring an EV pickup to market doesn't bode well in my opinon. Being last was already looking bad, but scrapping it altogether shows an inability to keep up with modern tech. Rivian, tesla, Ford and Chevy have all proved it's not only doable but works well for a lot of truck owners. Nobody is saying scrap all ICE trucks, some people need hd trucks with 15k+ pound towing capacity. Some people primarily road trip their trucks and don't want EVs. The idea that a $7500 tax credit eliminates the viability of trucks pushing 6 figures plus it's just dumb.
Sponsored

 
 







Top