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Cummins 4.5L....

Aus folks are swapping them into just about everything 4WD. Plus with a few mods making some pretty crazy HP and Torque numbers.
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Looking at the highest mileage examples is about as useful as looking at the lowest mileage major failures. If we do that all we know is you'll get somewhere between 10k miles and 500k+.
Actually, looking at high mileage engines and low mileage failures is very helpful when considering life expectancy. The data is used to assess wear and tear, discover weak points, and predict future issues. Thanks to the engine builders and experts in the field, we've been able to collect very important information on the Gen 2 EcoDiesel and address failure points.
 

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I’m rolling at around 131K. All this talk is starting to make me nervous. Better prepare for fun times ahead 😅
That's because people are overanxious weiners.

I put 445,000 miles on my Ram with minimal repairs, 10k oil change intervals, and no secret sauces ever put in the tank.

Largely because I wasn't out pouring over it with a stethoscope every single day. And I used it, not to go 7 miles to the Home Depot and carry a bush home, then 3 miles to and from work.
 

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I’m rolling at around 131K. All this talk is starting to make me nervous. Better prepare for fun times ahead 😅
The stock Gen 3 EcoDiesels are pretty solid. Everyone over 200,000 miles has only had to replace the DPF. We have one guy on the Ram forum that should be turning 300,000 by the end of the year. So far, he hasn't had any issues. As a matter of fact, he's been running a low SAPS oil so he's still on the factory DPF!
 

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Actually, looking at high mileage engines and low mileage failures is very helpful when considering life expectancy. The data is used to assess wear and tear, discover weak points, and predict future issues. Thanks to the engine builders and experts in the field, we've been able to collect very important information on the Gen 2 EcoDiesel and address failure points.
2 engines built on the same day in the same plant, driven the same, maintained the same often have a delta of life expectancy of 50-100k miles. It's a guess at best. Sure paying attention to common weak points and addressing them can help, but even if you did exactly what the guy with 500k+ miles did odds are you won't see anywhere near that was my point.
 

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The stock Gen 3 EcoDiesels are pretty solid. Everyone over 200,000 miles has only had to replace the DPF. We have one guy on the Ram forum that should be turning 300,000 by the end of the year. So far, he hasn't had any issues. As a matter of fact, he's been running a low SAPS oil so he's still on the factory DPF!
Did you say this right? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding?

Nothing replaced other than the DPF on every rig over 200k miles?
 

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Did you say this right? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding?

Nothing replaced other than the DPF on every rig over 200k miles?
First real problem I had was an oil cooler at about 230. Then nothing else until the lift pump at around 380.
 

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Did you say this right? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding?

Nothing replaced other than the DPF on every rig over 200k miles?
That's correct. There haven't been any issues on the Ram EcoDiesel trucks with over 200,000 miles. I think almost all of them had to replace their DPF, but one guy has been running Rotella T6 the entire time. When he bought his truck, Rotella T6 was the recommended oil stated in the manual. He had already put 100,000 miles on the truck before coming to the forum and found out that T6 was no longer recommended, but he kept running T6. T6 happens to be a low SAPS oil, so he hasn't had to replace the DPF. The DPF will last a good 300,000 miles if running a low SAPS oil.
 
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I put 445,000 miles on my Ram with minimal repairs, 10k oil change intervals, and no secret sauces ever put in the tank.
@Jrgunn5150 is one of our heroes for the Gen 2 EcoDiesel. Not only did he make the 400,000-mile club, but he's ranked in the top 5 for most mileage!

400,000 Mile Club
Ramdriver501 (truck #1) - 410,000 miles (engine and truck) - Totaled
VernDiesel - 423,000 miles (engine) - Coolant Loss due to cracked head
J.R. Gunn - 443,000 miles (engine and truck) - Totaled

450,000 Mile Club
James - 452,000 miles (engine) - Coolant Loss (reason not confirmed)
RussellandCissy - 474,070 miles (engine and truck) - Still in Operation

500,000 Mile Club

550,000 Mile Club

Muzzerall - 571,661 miles (engine, transmission, and truck) - Still in Operation
Tyler_R - 575,175 miles (engine and truck) - Still in Operation
 

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That's correct. There haven't been any issues on the Ram EcoDiesel trucks with over 200,000 miles. I think almost all of them had to replace their DPF, but one guy has been running Rotella T6 the entire time. When he bought his truck, Rotella T6 was the recommended oil stated in the manual. He had already put 100,000 miles on the truck before we came to the forum and found out that T6 was no longer recommended, but he kept running T6. T6 happens to be a low SAPS oil, so he hasn't had to replace the DPF. The DPF will last a good 300,000 miles if running a low SAPS oil.
But you can't possibly know about all the trucks out there.

There are EcoDiesel Gladiator owners here that have had more problems than only the DPF.
 
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I’m rolling at around 131K. All this talk is starting to make me nervous. Better prepare for fun times ahead 😅
That is most definitely not my intention.
I think have fun now 😅 not bad being aware though, not that one can do or know anything for certain
 

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But you can't possibly know about all the trucks out there.

There are EcoDiesel Gladiator owners here that have had more problems than only the DPF.
I could be due to a lot factors. One being off-roading too hard bouncing around that shake things up more?
 

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I could be due to a lot factors. One being off-roading too hard bouncing around that shack things up more?
I don't know why.

I was more blown away at the claim that every EcoDiesel Ram over 200k miles hasn't had any failures. That's impossible.
 

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Keep in mind that the EcoDiesel has a B10 life of 150,000 miles. In theory, 10% of all 3rd gen EcoDiesels will either fail or require a major repair by 150,000 miles. In essence, we can consider 150,000 miles at the first milestone. Failures will increase at 200,000, 250,000, 300,000, 350,000, 400,000, 450,000, 500,000, etc. Life expectancy is on a bell-shaped curve, we just don't know where the top of the curve is. So far, the highest mileage Gen 2 EcoDiesel I've seen has 578,393 miles and the highest mileage Gen 3 has about 275,000 miles.



It's really hard to know what you might need. All three of my EcoDiesels are bone stock (emissions compliant), so I'm obviously going to have issues with EGR coolers, sensors, DEF pumps, Intakes, etc. I've stocked up on those types of parts.
In my case ill keep the original block nd rebuild that if it gets to that point in my lifetime. By then I would upgrade some parts. Maybe a OEM rebuilt kit would be good to keep if they sell them complete?

I guess then buying emission parts now would be good as well. I do use low saps and went to the Zerex HD EP Diesel coolant complete. Hope that helps the EGR cooler. I have seen improved coolers but don't know if they make it for Gladiator and if they are really better then OEM?
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