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Sorry all, I’m new to all this…Am I correct to replace spark plugs and coil packs only the top intake manifold needs to be removed?
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Correct the upper plenum . The lower actually gets to stay in this instance and it houses the injectors..look my post and @WILDHOBO up and you will find where WE EACH had it off and replaced plugs and injectors and coil packs. @WILDHOBO did his coil packs 2 times . After getting some bad aftermarket packs. Need any advice holler at me.
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Correct the upper plenum . The lower actually gets to stay in this instance and it houses the injectors..look my post and @WILDHOBO up and you will find where WE EACH had it off and replaced plugs and injectors and coil packs. @WILDHOBO did his coil packs 2 times . After getting some bad aftermarket packs. Need any advice holler at me.
Thank you and looking forward to doing the work and locating the parts
 

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Did you all save the old injectors to service vs spending the cash for new ones. Not sure on cost comparison but I’d assume it’s cheaper to have them cleaned.
 

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Sorry all, I’m new to all this…Am I correct to replace spark plugs and coil packs only the top intake manifold needs to be removed?
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Yes. And only because it covers the driver side coils/plug tubes.
 

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Correct the upper plenum . The lower actually gets to stay in this instance and it houses the injectors..look my post and @WILDHOBO up and you will find where WE EACH had it off and replaced plugs and injectors and coil packs. @WILDHOBO did his coil packs 2 times . After getting some bad aftermarket packs. Need any advice holler at me.
Stan has this covered in great detail. He does really good work. My advice is run as fast as you can from aftermarket coils. Unless you love taking your top end apart in Indiana. Cuz. Ya know.
 
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Thank you and looking forward to doing the work and locating the parts
I cannot say enough about @AllMoparParts.com Benny has been tremendously helpful to this site and site members. I ordered everything plenum seals, injectors, plugs,and coil packs. Came in a tidy little box exactly as ordered and arrived in a very timely manner 7-10 days . Every part was correct and functioned . This is where I would go.
 

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I cannot say enough about @AllMoparParts.com Benny has been tremendously helpful to this site and site members. I ordered everything plenum seals, injectors, plugs,and coil packs. Came in a tidy little box exactly as ordered and arrived in a very timely manner 7-10 days . Every part was correct and functioned . This is where I would go.
💯 I’ve got three boxes from Benny waiting to be unpacked. Always on time. Always well packed.
 

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I'll echo that as well. Allmoparparts.com is always on point!
 

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Did you all save the old injectors to service vs spending the cash for new ones. Not sure on cost comparison but I’d assume it’s cheaper to have them cleaned.
I'm still personally bewildered on changing them if there is nothing wrong. Unless you have a vehicle that sits up for months without running and using fuel with ethanol content, the injectors don't need to be replaced.

And even then, dump some Berryman B12 in the tank and fresh gas and run the shit out of it. It'll clear up. Been there, did that 😂

Again, not saying it's a 'bad' thing if someone just wants to spend money on it - but it seems unnecessary unless one or more is defective. Especially with these being port injection. They'll stay in really good shape.

Beyond wiping the tips off I wouldn't bother trying to find a shop with an injector cleaning machine.

If its $250 you wont miss to throw away injectors that work 🤷‍♂️
 

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I can get behind this. I run half a bottle of SeaFoam through every now and again. Just put it in this morning. Half a pro bottle for the gas tank and half in the crank case because I need to do a 710 service here in a couple days.
 

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I'm still personally bewildered on changing them if there is nothing wrong. Unless you have a vehicle that sits up for months without running and using fuel with ethanol content, the injectors don't need to be replaced.

And even then, dump some Berryman B12 in the tank and fresh gas and run the shit out of it. It'll clear up. Been there, did that 😂

Again, not saying it's a 'bad' thing if someone just wants to spend money on it - but it seems unnecessary unless one or more is defective. Especially with these being port injection. They'll stay in really good shape.

Beyond wiping the tips off I wouldn't bother trying to find a shop with an injector cleaning machine.

If its $250 you wont miss to throw away injectors that work 🤷‍♂️
They may work but are they spraying in a fine enough mist causing better atomization of the fuel as it mixes with the air . I seen a 1mpg increase after changing injectors plugs and coil packs.
 

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I'm still personally bewildered on changing them if there is nothing wrong. Unless you have a vehicle that sits up for months without running and using fuel with ethanol content, the injectors don't need to be replaced.

And even then, dump some Berryman B12 in the tank and fresh gas and run the shit out of it. It'll clear up. Been there, did that 😂

Again, not saying it's a 'bad' thing if someone just wants to spend money on it - but it seems unnecessary unless one or more is defective. Especially with these being port injection. They'll stay in really good shape.

Beyond wiping the tips off I wouldn't bother trying to find a shop with an injector cleaning machine.

If its $250 you wont miss to throw away injectors that work 🤷‍♂️
Also I should have take a pic but the ends of each of the old injectors was dirty and it was clearly visible that the tiny holes were more clean on the new injectors.
 

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They may work but are they spraying in a fine enough mist causing better atomization of the fuel as it mixes with the air . I seen a 1mpg increase after changing injectors plugs and coil packs.
Changing injectors 'just because' = not good data.

Changing injectors and coming up with 1 MPG increase = quantifiable data. I like it.

So, $700 in parts (Mopar injectors and coil packs) - one extra mile per gallon, it usually takes 18 gallons to fill up my truck from where I typically stop for gas. That's 18 additional miles per tank of gas. My truck will get roughly 18 MPG, so I save roughly $3.89 per tank of fuel at current local cost.

$700/$3.89...

About 180 tanks of gas to break even - I need to fill up 5-6 times a month right now.

About 30 months to use the fuel savings to break even on the parts cost.

If my math is right. I barely got through high school on account of math (a different math, lol).

Probably a marginal performance boost as well.

Again - not knocking the choice. If it makes anyone happy you have my support. I'm just analytical at times.

To a fault 😂
 

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Changing injectors 'just because' = not good data.

Changing injectors and coming up with 1 MPG increase = quantifiable data. I like it.

So, $700 in parts (Mopar injectors and coil packs) - one extra mile per gallon, it usually takes 18 gallons to fill up my truck from where I typically stop for gas. That's 18 additional miles per tank of gas. My truck will get roughly 18 MPG, so I save roughly $3.89 per tank of fuel at current local cost.

$700/$3.89...

About 180 tanks of gas to break even - I need to fill up 5-6 times a month right now.

About 30 months to use the fuel savings to break even on the parts cost.

If my math is right. I barely got through high school on account of math (a different math, lol).

Probably a marginal performance boost as well.

Again - not knocking the choice. If it makes anyone happy you have my support. I'm just analytical at times.

To a fault 😂
I like the math and it may not pan out for you but it did for me I put 40.00 in mine every day. I already have 154k on mine. And it definitely paid out in no time. I fill up 5 days a week.
 

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I like the math and it may not pan out for you but it did for me I put 40.00 in mine every day. I already have 154k on mine. And it definitely paid out in no time. I fill up 5 days a week.
Holy shit. 5 times a week and I’d do absolutely anything to save that 1 mile per gallon.
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