Recovery gear in jt.

[BruteForce]

As promised, a few photos of my gear and placement.

First photo under rear drivers side seat: Air up & Down tools. I have another VIAR compressor in the bed..

Second photo, bed of the JT; land anchor/pry bar, RotoPax fuel cans, shove/axe and to the right, storage bins containing soft/hard shackles, VIAR air compressor, extra .45 mags, fire making gear and the Maxtrax..

Third photo is the cab:

HAM radio/amp, .45 and some other stuff..

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[Sx3]

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[PyrPatriot]

My Honda Element would leak fluids and once leaked a lot of fluids all at once. Ever since then I carried recovery gear and a bottle of brake, oil, transmission, and steering fluid. Also a full tool set, gloves, etc. The cargo area behind the seats made it great for a 27gal tub, a 5gal jerry can, a rifle bag with mags, and a set of ammo cans for my spontaneous range outings. Things are much harder in the JT, because I dont like things in my truck bed in case I need to put stuff in it

 

[BruteForce]

My Honda Element would leak fluids and once leaked a lot of fluids all at once. Ever since then I carried recovery gear and a bottle of brake, oil, transmission, and steering fluid. Also a full tool set, gloves, etc. The cargo area behind the seats made it great for a 27gal tub, a 5gal jerry can, a rifle bag with mags, and a set of ammo cans for my spontaneous range outings. Things are much harder in the JT, because I dont like things in my truck bed in case I need to put stuff in it

My JT is my overlanding and daily driver. If I need to haul stuff, I have my RAM3500 dually plus trailer. I'm okay with keeping my gear in the bed. The Tonneau cover + locking bed keep the gear secured and when the weekend comes, I'm ready to roll and don't have to load up yet again.

 

[PyrPatriot]

My JT is my overlanding and daily driver. If I need to haul stuff, I have my RAM3500 dually plus trailer. I'm okay with keeping my gear in the bed. The Tonneau cover + locking bed keep the gear secured and when the weekend comes, I'm ready to roll and don't have to load up yet again.

Ah, then that makes much more sense. I'll go be poor somewhere else (reference from another site for those that recognize it)

My JT is my daily driver, never know what might need to go in it. Btw, do you keep weights/sand bags in the bed for better traction? Or does the gear pictured weigh enough to help? My Gladiator likes to skid and slide on pavement that is even slightly wet, with HT, AT, or MT tires. Adding 350lbs helped tremendously

 

[BruteForce]

Ah, then that makes much more sense. I'll go be poor somewhere else (reference from another site for those that recognize it)

My JT is my daily driver, never know what might need to go in it. Btw, do you keep weights/sand bags in the bed for better traction? Or does the gear pictured weigh enough to help? My Gladiator likes to skid and slide on pavement that is even slightly wet, with HT, AT, or MT tires. Adding 350lbs helped tremendously

I've kept 600 pounds of sand bags in the Dually for Utah WInter snow storms. So far, the JT has done quite well in snow without the need for extra weight in the bed.

As it relates to your "go be poor somewhere else", I have no context on that statement. My Ram 3500 Dually is 10 years old, paid off and a beast of a machine. Paid off being key phrase as it was either a new Ford F450 ($120k) or the Gladiator to extend the use of the RAM. No brainer in my book..

 

[PyrPatriot]

I've kept 600 pounds of sand bags in the Dually for Utah WInter snow storms. So far, the JT has done quite well in snow without the need for extra weight in the bed.

As it relates to your "go be poor somewhere else", I have no context on that statement. My Ram 3500 Dually is 10 years old, paid off and a beast of a machine. Paid off being key phrase as it was either a new Ford F450 ($120k) or the Gladiator to extend the use of the RAM. No brainer in my book..

I meant no insult. It was just a joke from another forum for when someone has two really nice things...nevermind. Paid off is good. My Element is likewise paid off, 15 years old. Still drive it half the time (well, not now, needs a new starter to put in and I'll do that in a week or two once my 1mo old settles in better).

I can't imagine driving an F450 or 3500, they must have an insane amount of capability for hauling/towing.

 

[Slapping_Rabbits]

Check reciprocity with different states. I have a PA, SC and UT CWP. You can get out-of-state CWPs (typically need to show you have one in your own state, take applicable trainings and file the appropriate paperwork/fees). Last time I checked with these three I can carry in about 38 states.

MD really sucks though, sorry. If I have anything in the vehicle I won’t even leave the interstate to get gas in that state.

Well, yeah. it does. I miss the mountains and non-rainy, non-depressing winters. One good thing is they, MD, accepted my hunter's safety course certificate from idaho so i didn't have to take the handgun class again here. Not that it wouldn't have been a good idea, but I'd rather spend the time and money on a more advanced class.

 

[G8R]

My list of recovery crap is about the same as @BruteForce and @Jowen with a few additions. My kit is certainly over the top but that is because I am stupid and typically go explore solo for multiple days at a time (I pair it down significantly in the rare trips I have with another vehicle). I have to be able to get my ass out by myself. And be capable of hiking 50 miles out when I blow it (not if).

• 2 - Spare Tires (can use as deadman anchor but really hate digging that much)
• Hi Lift with tire hooks and winch connector
• Winch on bumper
• 4 ton cum-along (for winching in reverse-yes this is redundant to the Hi Lift and is often left behind)
• Hydraulic jack
• Spade shovel (single most important and often used item by far and is always in my vehicle)
• Snow Shovel (when I know there is significant snow-came in handy 2 weeks ago on multiple occasions).
• 2 Max Traxx (I have never used them and not sure if I really need these)
• 3 home made "series-anchors" (3/4 inch rebar). For creating anchors when nothing but sage brush is around. These actually work quite well. I have used these for decades (adapted from ice climbing foolishness) but recently there are some youtube videos with the same idea.
• 3 lb hammer to pound in those stakes.
• tools (specific to those that fit the truck and a few others-Duct Tape, wire, grease, cable ties, ratchet straps).
• Snatch Block
• 4 Shackles
• 2 soft shackles (double as grab handles on my roll bar)
• Tree Saver strap
• 2-30 foot straps
• 150 feet of synthetic rope
• Vair compressor
• Tire Puncture Kit
• tarp
• rain jacket
• axe
• saw
• Jumper cables
• 4 Mud Chains (Single best item to prevent getting stuck in the first place, but only carry when wet or snow-which is most always).
• Survival kit (clothing, food, water, and projectile hurlers).
• Extra fuel (amount varies by trip but usually at least one 2 gal rotopax).
• Sat Phone, Garmin GPS,

The only thing I am currently missing is a dynamic (kinetic) strap which is on my short list to buy.

I pack all this crap in a heavy duty poly box (Pelican or other type) and strap down with ratchet straps. All this went on my recent Utah elk Hunt. And yes, this all weighs too damn much.

 

[Slapping_Rabbits]

My list of recovery crap is about the same as @BruteForce and @Jowen with a few additions. My kit is certainly over the top but that is because I am stupid and typically go explore solo for multiple days at a time (I pair it down significantly in the rare trips I have with another vehicle). I have to be able to get my ass out by myself. And be capable of hiking 50 miles out when I blow it (not if).

• 2 - Spare Tires (can use as deadman anchor but really hate digging that much)
• Hi Lift with tire hooks and winch connector
• Winch on bumper
• 4 ton cum-along (for winching in reverse-yes this is redundant to the Hi Lift and is often left behind)
• Hydraulic jack
• Spade shovel (single most important and often used item by far and is always in my vehicle)
• Snow Shovel (when I know there is significant snow-came in handy 2 weeks ago on multiple occasions).
• 2 Max Traxx (I have never used them and not sure if I really need these)
• 3 home made "series-anchors" (3/4 inch rebar). For creating anchors when nothing but sage brush is around. These actually work quite well. I have used these for decades (adapted from ice climbing foolishness) but recently there are some youtube videos with the same idea.
• 3 lb hammer to pound in those stakes.
• tools (specific to those that fit the truck and a few others-Duct Tape, wire, grease, cable ties, ratchet straps).
• Snatch Block
• 4 Shackles
• 2 soft shackles (double as grab handles on my roll bar)
• Tree Saver strap
• 2-30 foot straps
• 150 feet of synthetic rope
• Vair compressor
• Tire Puncture Kit
• tarp
• rain jacket
• axe
• saw
• Jumper cables
• 4 Mud Chains (Single best item to prevent getting stuck in the first place, but only carry when wet or snow-which is most always).
• Survival kit (clothing, food, water, and projectile hurlers).
• Extra fuel (amount varies by trip but usually at least one 2 gal rotopax).
• Sat Phone, Garmin GPS,

The only thing I am currently missing is a dynamic (kinetic) strap which is on my short list to buy.

I pack all this crap in a heavy duty poly box (Pelican or other type) and strap down with ratchet straps. All this went on my recent Utah elk Hunt. And yes, this all weighs too damn much.

Are the stakes related to recovery? If so explain to this newb

 

[G8R]

Are the stakes related to recovery? If so explain to this newb

Yes. Pound in and connect to the next one with straps in series. Then connect to your winch.

This is where I have used this technique a lot. But with three anchors (there are some incorrect issues in this picture from a climbing perspective but this is not the point here).

Essentially the same as this person does:

 

[G8R]

A point of clarification on rigging my setup. I do not use the welded eye as a loading point. I use it to prevent straps from slipping off the top as the rebar will bend forward as it is loaded. You want to minimize chances of failure points and I do not trust my welding that much. In this photo the shackle is through the welded eye but loading against the spine of the stake and not on the eyelet itself. In this photograph the red cord would be the vehicle winch line (down direction in this photo and the third stake is off the top of the photo). The red sling would be a tree saver or 30 foot static strap (why I carry two of them). Note, as the load is applied the first stake will flex and subsequently load the second and third stakes. Each is setup to prevent the first strap from slipping off the top of the stake. If this photo is confusing I can take the time to rig it with real recovery straps and not my retired climbing gear. You can also rig this with no shackles. Just make sure the orientation is such that each successive strap acts to prevent the first in line from slipping over the top.

 

[G8R]

Without shackles and how I would rig most of the time.

As the system loads the stakes flex toward the vehicle causing the straps to slip upwards. Each successive strap holds the other down and the eyelet keeps them on the shaft. Thus the eye is not really loaded (some shear stress but minimal).

 

[BruteForce]

Without shackles and how I would rig most of the time.

As the system loads the stakes flex toward the vehicle causing the straps to slip upwards. Each successive strap holds the other down and the eyelet keeps them on the shaft. Thus the eye is not really loaded (some shear stress but minimal).

A Pull-Pal would be so much easier! Heavier and more expensive, but easier!!

 

[G8R]

A Pull-Pal would be so much easier! Heavier and more expensive, but easier!!

I might try that. Some mixed success on YouTube with them. Certainly easier to remove after.

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