NachoRuby
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- Chad
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- '21 JTR , '18 JLU, 73 VW Bug, 97 VW Jetta, all MTs
Given that the top 2 gears are overdrive on both transmissions, the automatic must be downshifting to reach the same rpm band. 5+6 are overdrive, as you know, on the manual, with 7 and 8 being overdrive on the 8 speed. Fourth is 1:1 on the 6 speed, with 6 being 1:1 on the 8 speed. There are too many threads about the auto not holding 8th gear to believe that the auto isn't shifting often as well. Given the gear ratios for both, it simply has to be. They both need to go down 3 gears to achieve greater than a a 1:1 reduction.It's not shifting near as much. It is also an 8 speed and geared far better for the transmission.
Driving an auto vs. manual is like driving two different vehicles entirely.
Jeep really screwed up. The manual makes the engine seem lazy and laggy. It's not true at all. It's geared all wrong from the transmission gearing to the diff.
It would be perfect if they had tighter gearing both on and offroad.
I actually prefer driving a manual vs. an auto on every other car I've ever driven.
I traded in my JL for the JT within two weeks of test driving an auto Rubi.
Maybe the difference you feel is indeed the final drive between the Rubicon and the other trims. Regardless, I still don't have a problem with the need to shift. It's why I bought it. Sure, it needs a deep downshift to go up a steep incline. But I'm ok with that. 3rd tops out at a pretty high speed, so I don't have any problem using it. Off road, well I'm really only using 1 and 2, and maybe occasionally 3 anyway, so it doesn't matter there. On the highway, usually I'm in 5th until about 65mph, maybe a little more, depending on traffic, and I downshift to 4th for all but the steepest of inclines or when I need to pass quicker than 4th will allow, when I'll go to third. I do wonder how much of your experience is the difference between 3.45 and 4.1 final gearing, though. The ratios for the top 3 gears of both transmissions are too similar for the automatic to not be downshifting a few gears as well in similar circumstances.
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