The Philistine thread - non-lifted Gladiators and not likely to be, either

[dfwxjer]

Don't plan to lift it at all. I will re-gear at some point because the stock 4.10 suck for the bigger tires, but otherwise this is all I have planned.

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[Gvsukids]

Don't plan to lift it at all. I will re-gear at some point because the stock 4.10 suck for the bigger tires, but otherwise this is all I have planned.

I thought the 4.10 could handle up to 35's.

 

[SwampNut]

I thought the 4.10 could handle up to 35's.

Sort of. So much depends on the terrain and how you drive, do you tow, etc? That combo isn't quite ideal but would be very good. In AZ, it could be a little challenge with mountain driving. In FL, you'd be fine since the tallest peak is what, 15 feet?

 

[chithead]

Picked up Rubicon wheels and tires a week after bringing this 2020 Sport home. VERY happy so far. Added the front bumper, rock rails, and Fox shocks all from a Rubicon too.

 

[Jaxmax]

I don’t know, most people on this thread about not putting lifts on, are putting leveling kits on or spacers, uh isn’t that sort of a lift? I have a Mojave and would like narrower tires with rounded shoulders for beach driving, and am like everyone else, ordered
1 & 3/8” ION spacers for rear to compensate for the sag with the RSI top on and some stuff inside, getting back to about stock when done…..Jack

 

[SwampNut]

Spacers all around is definitely a lift. "Leveling kit" means exactly what it says; spacers only on the front to get closer to level. I don't consider that a lift and I think most people don't. I have a Rubi with 1" front spacers to get it near level (I think the OEM difference was 1.75" or so).

 

[dfwxjer]

I thought the 4.10 could handle up to 35's.

It's not unbearable but I would prefer 4.88 so I can hold 8th gear on a reasonable grade. I didn't even love the 4.10 gearing with the stock tires. My new 315/70 BFG measure out like 34" and makes 8th gear elusive.

 

[Gvsukids]

Sort of. So much depends on the terrain and how you drive, do you tow, etc? That combo isn't quite ideal but would be very good. In AZ, it could be a little challenge with mountain driving. In FL, you'd be fine since the tallest peak is what, 15 feet?

It's not unbearable but I would prefer 4.88 so I can hold 8th gear on a reasonable grade. I didn't even love the 4.10 gearing with the stock tires. My new 315/70 BFG measure out like 34" and makes 8th gear elusive.

Did you calibrate for your new tire size?

 

[Samsons Wig]

No lift. No leveling kit. No rubbing. Climbs steep grades just fine. 35's.

 

[jjdustr340]

Did you calibrate for your new tire size?

This.
It took me multiple attempts at changing the tire size to a number that made the speedo match the gps, but once done it still accelerates fine and I see 8th gear with my 34 inch tires. That’s with the 3.73 gear. Many underestimate the difference having an 8 speed gearbox makes in “picking up the slack” of gearing.

As a point of comparison, my 3.73 gear with the 34 inch tires now calculates out to 3.49.
My wife’s JLU is factory with 3.45.

 

[Gvsukids]

This.
It took me multiple attempts at changing the tire size to a number that made the speedo match the gps, but once done it still accelerates fine and I see 8th gear with my 34 inch tires. That’s with the 3.73 gear. Many underestimate the difference having an 8 speed gearbox makes in “picking up the slack” of gearing.

As a point of comparison, my 3.73 gear with the 34 inch tires now calculates out to 3.49.
My wife’s JLU is factory with 3.45.

My speedometer is 2 mph under what the GPS shows I'm doing. And I am on stock tires.

 

[FloridaJT6MT]

In FL, you'd be fine since the tallest peak is what, 15 feet?

Hey now, my house is 16 feet above sea level! Also, I don’t think I’ll ever put a lift on. I’ve been very impressed with how well my stock Willys handles the sand, muck and a few feet of swamp water down here.

 

[Gvsukids]

Hey now, my house is 16 feet above sea level! Also, I don’t think I’ll ever put a lift on. I’ve been very impressed with how well my stock Willys handles the sand, muck and a few feet of swamp water down here.

You've got great mud terrains

 

[chrismeece74]

2021 Sport Max Tow, no lift. I found a sweet deal on Mojave Wheels and tires. Looks and drives great. No plan for a lift until time to replace the tires again.

 

[AlxCZ]

A joke was made in another thread about Gladiator owners who don't put a lift kit on, being considered Philistines by the 'lifted' crowd and I thought maybe we could have our own thread here. I bought my Sport-S about 3 weeks ago and I love it. Not that I don't want larger tires, I surely do, but a lift kit isn't in my foreseeable future. It's just too much money for the lift, then for new wheels to accommodate bigger tires. When I wear my tires out in a couple of years, I'll be buying the 285/70R17's which will get me to about a 33'' tire, but until then, I'm perfectly happy running stock.

That doesn't mean I don't partake in other mods, I've converted the entire front set of lights to LED's and I'll be looking at doing other things as well.

Sometimes a joke becomes a joke when others don't really appreciate it as a joke. Some of us bought our Gladiators "as is" for many reasons, money constraints, no need for luxury purchases, budgeting for improvements, etc. The mere fact that someone wants to classify Gladiator owners as with or without improvements, is senseless.
We all have one thing in common, we are Gladiator owners. Funny thing is Jeeps are one of the few vehicles out there that "improvements" are part of the purchase thought. I waited 5 years before I made an improvement on my first jeep. It was perfect out the gate.

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