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Cool it has black fenders and top, those are becoming a lot less common. I prefer the black for contract myself.
Absolutely, it looks so much better than color coordinated fenders, etc. Not even close.
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My Rubicon wearing Yokohama Geo’s steers perfectly on and off pavement. Certainly at highway speeds. Leaugues better than the Toyota Tacoma I drove before it, which handled like an oxcart with the 33” Cooper STT Pro tires I put on it.

Drive the specific truck you are looking to buy before you buy it and make sure the tires are inflated properly. There’s no reason why it should handle badly despite what you’ve read here or elsewhere.
HAHA that is what what I'm driving now (Taco on 33), That much better?
I'm trying to decide as well, which trim to get. Build out a diesel Willys Sport or pay for diesel Rubi, going to stick 37's under it, so already going to have to spend $$ on 2"-2.5" lift, shocks and tires on what ever model I get. What has me concern is the ride between the WillyS and Rubi. Is there a significant difference in ride between those 2? Is there much diffrence in suspension or just shocks. I'm not considering all the other bell and whistle Rubi comes with. I can build those into the WillyS as I need them in future. Mojave is out because doesn't have diesel option.
 

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HAHA that is what what I'm driving now (Taco on 33), That much better?
I'm trying to decide as well, which trim to get. Build out a diesel Willys Sport or pay for diesel Rubi, going to stick 37's under it, so already going to have to spend $$ on 2"-2.5" lift, shocks and tires on what ever model I get. What has me concern is the ride between the WillyS and Rubi. Is there a significant difference in ride between those 2? Is there much diffrence in suspension or just shocks. I'm not considering all the other bell and whistle Rubi comes with. I can build those into the WillyS as I need them in future. Mojave is out because doesn't have diesel option.
If your going to lift it you will probably be replacing the stock springs and shocks so it doesn’t matter how different they ride stock. You can get the same Mopar 2” lift for either and run 37” tires, they will ride the same at that point.
 

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If your going to lift it you will probably be replacing the stock springs and shocks so it doesn’t matter how different they ride stock. You can get the same Mopar 2” lift for either and run 37” tires, they will ride the same at that point.
That was what I was thinking. I just didn't know if the Rubi would have any other benefit when it came down to the ride.
 

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That was what I was thinking. I just didn't know if the Rubi would have any other benefit when it came down to the ride.
Rubi and Willys have the exact same suspension. Willys comes with the Rubi shocks and springs. The difference is in the swaybar disco and lockers
 

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Pick a couple of models that interest you, and test drive them on city streets, country roads, and the interstate. I drove both an Overland and a Mojave In September, 20. Really really liked the Mojave, but it was very hard to keep the steering centered in comparison to the Overland I bought. With a new steering box for 21, the dead center issues may (or not) be fixed, but try a few before you buy.
 
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Pick a couple of models that interest you, and test drive them on city streets, country roads, and the interstate. I drove both an Overland and a Mojave In September, 20. Really really liked the Mojave, but it was very hard to keep the steering centered in comparison to the Overland I bought. With a new steering box for 21, the dead center issues may (or not) be fixed, but try a few before you buy.
 

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I've made my decision - I'll be driving this fully loaded Sport S within the next 3 weeks when it arrives at the dealership and I got them to throw in a Mopar tonneau cover. Can't wait!
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I recently ordered a rubicon and while trying to negotiate didn’t get very far. How did you persuade them to throw in the cover? If you don’t mind me asking?
 
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I've made my decision - I'll be driving this fully loaded Sport S within the next 3 weeks when it arrives at the dealership and I got them to throw in a Mopar tonneau cover. Can't wait!

I recently ordered a rubicon and while trying to negotiate didn’t get very far. How did you persuade them to throw in the cover? If you don’t mind me asking?
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I know they are making a ton on it with no discounts. Even if they sell you a care a dealer invoice, they still make a nice profit from the so-called dealer hold back. This one was in transit and not sold and it was exactly what I wanted after doing a lot of searching. I spent time with the salesman, test drove a used one and then went home without committing to anything. I asked a few questions through text to keep in contact and then finally I decided to take a shot. I texted the sales man and said, "I will take the car and make an immediate down payment, but only if you do one thing. I want the dealership to install a Mopar fold up tonneau cover. Of course his commission relied on making the sale, because someone else might commit to the car with another sales person. Soon thereafter, he came back and said "Okay, we'll do it." They then texted me a secure deposit link and I made a deposit with my cc of $500 and now happily waiting for my new toy!
 

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Just build your own. I bought an overland because i wanted leather, 8.4” screen, cold weather group and LED package, plus I’m putting the Mopar 2” lift, already have 35’s, and regearing soon. I live in michigan so I’ll only see trails.
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