Egr,DPF delete while in mexico.

[ilovebikes99]

Simply not true. Let's be real. These are all fiat/Chrysler engines. Even the 3.0. VM Motori is owned by Stellantis too. It's not some special failure-free super motor. There are more 3.6s sold, so there will be more failure threads. The diesel is nice. Really nice. Of course it's a good engine. But no reason to be rude because the other guy picked a different motor. We drive freaking jeeps. known the world-round for reliability, right? Same conglomerate as Fiat and Chrysler?

https://gdlauto.com.au/jeep-grand-cherokee-3-0-diesel-engine-failure/

https://www.ram1500diesel.com/threads/2016-ram-ecodiesel-1500-catastrophic-engine-failure-75k.69236/

https://www.jeepgarage.org/threads/ecodiesel-catastrophic-engine-failure.201122/

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/2021-ecodiesel-issues.44818/

https://www.ram1500diesel.com/threads/18-ecodiesel-problems.58986/

Ok I wanted so much for you to be right but let's see:

https://gdlauto.com.au/jeep-grand-cherokee-3-0-diesel-engine-fai
Not Gen 3 engine - not the same engine

https://www.ram1500diesel.com/threads/2016-ram-ecodiesel-1500-catastrophic-engine-failure-75k.69236/
Again, Not Gen 3 engine - not the same engine

https://www.jeepgarage.org/threads/ecodiesel-catastrophic-engine-failure.201122/
Again, Not Gen 3 engine - not the same engine

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/2021-ecodiesel-issues.44818/
Not even an engine failure. Extreme use, heat soaked

https://www.ram1500diesel.com/threads/18-ecodiesel-problems.58986/
Again, Not Gen 3 engine - not the same engine

How do you explain not even knowing what engine you have?
Edit: I see you don't even drive a diesel but the pentagranade. Good luck!
One more thing, you guys are talking smack about the diesel in many topics, but none of that stuff is true. And you think I'm rude? You're spreading false information. Well I can talk the same smack then. And actually there's many here on the forum that have the diesel engine, it's more of an enthusiast engine (non standard).

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[NachoRuby]

Ok I wanted so much for you to be right but let's see:

https://gdlauto.com.au/jeep-grand-cherokee-3-0-diesel-engine-fai
Not Gen 3 engine - not the same engine

https://www.ram1500diesel.com/threads/2016-ram-ecodiesel-1500-catastrophic-engine-failure-75k.69236/
Again, Not Gen 3 engine - not the same engine

https://www.jeepgarage.org/threads/ecodiesel-catastrophic-engine-failure.201122/
Again, Not Gen 3 engine - not the same engine

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/2021-ecodiesel-issues.44818/
Not even an engine failure. Extreme use, heat soaked

https://www.ram1500diesel.com/threads/18-ecodiesel-problems.58986/
Again, Not Gen 3 engine - not the same engine

How do you explain not even knowing what engine you have?

Not trying to be right. You can have this one. I like your jeep. I like the diesel. Nothing at all against it. But neither has immunity. Just poking light at Fiat Chryslers/Stellantis's notorious record for reliability, regardless of which subsidiary produced it. Each generation of the 3.0 has improved, as has each version of the pentastar, since 2011. I'm not about cliques. Not diesel vs gas. We drive gladiators.

 

[ilovebikes99]

Not trying to be right. You can have this one. I like your jeep. I like the diesel. Nothing at all against it. But neither has immunity. Just poking light at Fiat Chryslers/Stellantis's notorious record for reliability, regardless of which subsidiary produced it. Each generation of the 3.0 has improved, as has each version of the pentastar, since 2011. I'm not about cliques. Not diesel vs gas. We drive gladiators.

Fiat in general sucks. Their Euro MultiJet engines are bomb proof.
These Jeeps are pretty good. But the stuff about the Gen 3 diesel isn't true. We have yet to see failures.

 

[NachoRuby]

How do you explain not even knowing what engine you have?
Edit: I see you don't even drive a diesel but the pentagranade. Good luck!
One more thing, you guys are talking smack about the diesel in many topics, but none of that stuff is true. And you think I'm rude? You're spreading false information. Well I can talk the same smack then. And actually there's many here on the forum that have the diesel engine, it's more of an enthusiast engine (non standard).

I am not talking smack about the diesel. If it came in stick, it would be in my driveway now. I don't talk smack about any trim/engine/drivetrain. I pretty much like all automobiles, and enamored by any nicely done jeep. I DO like the diesel.

 

[Deleted member 47279]

So i have started reaching out to some people i trust in the area. the tuning shouldnt be too hard. i may have to leverage some knowledge from our Canadian friends, but i feel it should buff out. worst case I do a full RE and learn enough about the ECM to disregard whats missing or replay it with several variations. i mean its not like they are doing input validation or anything.

 

[TroutFishingInAmerica]

There's a lot of skilled labor in Mexico, including engineers and diesel techs. Some better than here. You think US is the standard for skilled labor? Nobody wants to work. Some of the laziest SOBs I've seen. The lower wage earners all trip out they should be CEOs but have no skills and 0 responsibility.

Also EcoDiesel doesn't have any reported catastrophic engine failures unlike the shitty Pentagranade

My oh my.

 

[LostWoods]

So i have started reaching out to some people i trust in the area. the tuning shouldnt be too hard. i may have to leverage some knowledge from our Canadian friends, but i feel it should buff out. worst case I do a full RE and learn enough about the ECM to disregard whats missing or replay it with several variations. i mean its not like they are doing input validation or anything.

They definitely are to some degree. This isn't as simple as retuning some fuel maps, you need to get in there and either falsify your loads/inputs so the truck thinks it's still operating the missing pieces or find a means to completely disable the systems. If you don't you'll get a code in a best case scenario or a disabled truck on the other end.

 

[Keith Diesel]

Or you could save a lot of money and frustration and get the Green Diesel Tune. We compared those northern weight loss tunes from up north, funny stuff. The GDE tune on Gen3 is about 1 second quicker 0-60 and gets better fuel economy. Does not make sense to change all those parts to go slower, lose efficiency, destroy the warranty and devalue the rig.
https://greendieselengineering.com/...el-performance-fuel-economy-clean-engine-oil/

 

[Glad_he_ate]

Increase payload with the delete !!! Aka drop 100lbs off the trucks weight.
I deleted my zr2 and LOVED IT!!
Anyone finds a solid kit in Mexico or Canada fuckin let me know !!!

 

[Deleted member 47279]

Ive heard some good things back! the physical stuff is easy and the tuning is looking better and better. Ive gotten a serious education on the complexity of these machines, and have a new found respect for tuners.

 

[Dougstdig]

 

[BryantM4]

If you can get it done, do it. Diesel Emissions have no real effect on a “clean enviroment” as most gas vehicles run way dirtier.

 

[Hootbro]

Diesel Emissions have no real effect on a “clean enviroment” as most gas vehicles run way dirtier.

How so?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

How so?

My question exactly. IF that's the case then why is the EPA going after diesel mods first?? Those who have been fined, etc. have mostly been diesel mod products. The EPA is hammering diesels hard. Gas engines run cleaner.


And here's some info from the government - first, a hint for mechanics working on modified vehicles:
Do not work on tampered emission controls unless repairing them to their original condition - otherwise you can be held personally liable.

And what constitutes tampering -
Tampering with, or selling a vehicle that has been tampered with may result in monetary penalties. The components of a vehicle emission control system that can be tampered with include, but are not limited to:

catalytic converter
air injection system
evaporative emission system
exhaust gas recirculation (egr)
system fuel inlet restrictor
oxygen sensor positive
crankcase ventilation (pcv)
computer command controls
thermostatic air intake system
diesel particulate filter

Engine warranties can get really sticky since they can't work on any part of an engine that is part of emissions unless they put everything back and make it pass emissions. Take it in not passing and need work done, it can get tricky. If a main bearing fails, that's different, that's got to be covered, oil seal leak - same thing, but if there's an issue that's connected to tune or emissions, they can't touch it unless they make the emissions parts right again.

 

[Brekka]

I am very sure you could paint “I did a sketchy diesel delete while in Mexico” on the side of your truck, and zero sh*ts will be given by Customs & Border Patrol. They’re looking for smugglers, drugs, people, etc.

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