thinking of cancelling 22 rubi diesel order

[JeepRage]

I made the final decision to go with a Mojave over Diesel Rubicon for a few reasons. I don't want to lift, max of 35s, tow only a few times a year, only in the dead of summer (heat), don't need a front locker or disconnect swaybar, or the extremely low T-case.

I DO drive in the snow and wanted selectrac, which I couldn't get in the diesel, and really wanted softer and taller OEM suspension. I ultimately made the decision I'd rather wring the 3.6 out a few times a year towing safely in the heat, than deal with finicky issues and CELs on the diesel, sacrifice ride and fulltime 4wd, and potentially deal with local dealer for diesel repairs. The fact I don't do many miles and much of my use is local around town and rarely hot enough for regen... decision was easy when looking at real needs and facts (for me).

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[Trout Safari]

If you are thinking about cancelling your order, why dont you post up your build sheet or specs and color and maybe a member would be happy to take over that Jeep order and save themselves a bunch of time waiting? Then you wouldn't even loose your deposit and you would be helping out a forum member. They could also send you yearly update as to how much they love their new gladiator!

 

[staying_tuned]

If you are thinking about cancelling your order, why dont you post up your build sheet or specs and color and maybe a member would be happy to take over that Jeep order and save themselves a bunch of time waiting? Then you wouldn't even loose your deposit and you would be helping out a forum member. They could also send you yearly update as to how much they love their new gladiator!

Plus you won't burn the relationship with your dealer. There are only a handful of dealers that can swing such steep discounts off invoice, let alone MSRP.

 

[TT32VGT]

Going to ignore the problems and hope for the best. Just got the window sticker. It should ship soon

 

[Unkle Luk]

12k trouble free miles of diesel awesomeness, don’t look back and enjoy the ride

 

[Dakota Kid]

I’m at 10k on mine and other than a “See dealer for DEF shutdown in 200 miles” issue 1 time that irritated the hell out of me…. But was fixed fairly easily in the end *knocking on wood*, all good.

Drive both a diesel and gas ( same trim level on same route so it’s apples to apples) and come back to the thread and let us know if you’d honestly take a gas version. My money is on no?.

Hands down favorite motor/vehicle combo since my wife’s 2011 Ford Flex with the 3.5 L twin turbo eco boost engine. The stupid smooth on tap torque makes for an infinitely better experience.

Worth. Every. Penny.

 

[armd.offroad]

My reasons were similar as others for choosing gas over diesel. I ordered a 2022 3.6 Rubicon because I WFH 100% and ALL of my driving is short trips to the nearby stores. My commute to work is only 8 miles if I were ever required to go into the office. I didn't want to have to change my lifestyle just to own a diesel. I didn't want to always be worrying about breaking down due to CELs or DEF or whatever else is going wrong with these Eco's. I also didn't want to worry about overheating when I drive steep grades because I live in AZ and it gets hella hot here. Gas is familiar to me and I know I can manage the maintenance on my own with the gasser. I know the minority post online about their issues and there are probably hundreds of thousands of ecodiesel owners without issues, but my luck, I would have been the one that had issues. So I stuck with the tried and true Pentastar. I know the Pentastar also has issues of its own, but it has been out much longer and is proven to be more tried and true reliability vs the ecodiesel. I don't have any regrets and have test driven both.

 

[Larry D]

seems like every day I log on and theres nothing but problems with them, especially the diesels. timing cover oil leaks, turbo, and other issues. I understand issues, but in todays time of massive backordered parts and flat out unavailability, its concerning.. not to mention dealers, at least in my part of the country are undermanned and overwhelmed. 1-2month before they can even look at a vehicle. i know bc I have a grand cherokee that needs service frequently.
I might lose a 1k deposit, but Im seriously considering it. I hate issues.. I live 45min from the nearest dealer. could be a real pain towing it in the mountains.

What do you think about the diesel issues, is it really not that bad? is it a small percentage?

Than I guess you never looked at all the problems the gas motor has. Everytime I look at this forum I see my gas motor is ticking, cams being replaced, people on their 3rd motor at 15000 miles. Yes sir sounds like a real winner lol ?

 

[NachoRuby]

Than I guess you never looked at all the problems the gas motor has. Everytime I look at this forum I see my gas motor is ticking, cams being replaced, people on their 3rd motor at 15000 miles. Yes sir sounds like a real winner lol ?

Now you're going to go and scare them away from all of them!

 

[ilovebikes99]

My reasons were similar as others for choosing gas over diesel. I ordered a 2022 3.6 Rubicon because I WFH 100% and ALL of my driving is short trips to the nearby stores. My commute to work is only 8 miles if I were ever required to go into the office. I didn't want to have to change my lifestyle just to own a diesel. I didn't want to always be worrying about breaking down due to CELs or DEF or whatever else is going wrong with these Eco's. I also didn't want to worry about overheating when I drive steep grades because I live in AZ and it gets hella hot here. Gas is familiar to me and I know I can manage the maintenance on my own with the gasser. I know the minority post online about their issues and there are probably hundreds of thousands of ecodiesel owners without issues, but my luck, I would have been the one that had issues. So I stuck with the tried and true Pentastar. I know the Pentastar also has issues of its own, but it has been out much longer and is proven to be more tried and true reliability vs the ecodiesel. I dont have any regrets and I have test driven both.

Good summary. It makes sense to me.
Unfortunately it looks like you were one of the people that got scared by the minority having issues. I drive short trips too without a hitch. And in like -5F weather. 5-8-10 miles. To the store and back. To a coffee shop. Grab lunch sometimes. Work from home full time. I have not had any issues. Living in AZ would actually help you get better fuel economy. Diesel trucks like to run hot, they are most efficient then. The problems sometimes appear when towing heavy loads up long steep inclines and potentially not using manual mode.
When I was towing 4000lbs with my VW Tiguan gas 2.0 turbo, if I left it in automatic mode it would heat up very quickly because it would always choose a more economical (higher) gear. It did have the power to pull because of the turbo but it would just heat up a lot.
If I used manual mode and kept the car in a bit higher rpm it would do totally fine with no issues. This may be the issue. If you're just driving around in the heat you'd never have issues.
But I'm glad you're happy with what you have, Jeeps are great, maybe you sell yours for more cash and get a diesel sometime, who knows!

 

[wv_gladiator]

18k with no issues. I'm a first time diesel owner and love it so far.

 

[armd.offroad]

Good summary. It makes sense to me.
Unfortunately it looks like you were one of the people that got scared by the minority having issues. I drive short trips too without a hitch. And in like -5F weather. 5-8-10 miles. To the store and back. To a coffee shop. Grab lunch sometimes. Work from home full time. I have not had any issues. Living in AZ would actually help you get better fuel economy. Diesel trucks like to run hot, they are most efficient then. The problems sometimes appear when towing heavy loads up long steep inclines and potentially not using manual mode.
When I was towing 4000lbs with my VW Tiguan gas 2.0 turbo, if I left it in automatic mode it would heat up very quickly because it would always choose a more economical (higher) gear. It did have the power to pull because of the turbo but it would just heat up a lot.
If I used manual mode and kept the car in a bit higher rpm it would do totally fine with no issues. This may be the issue. If you're just driving around in the heat you'd never have issues.
But I'm glad you're happy with what you have, Jeeps are great, maybe you sell yours for more cash and get a diesel sometime, who knows!

I wouldn't say I got scared by the posts on this forum alone. There are similar concerning posts for the 3.6 Pentastar recently with ticking and other issues. I just ended up weighing my pros and cons as I seen them for my use case and for me personally, the pros did not outweigh the cons.

 

[Oilburner]

Ordering JT Rubi Diesel TODAY -

 

[Mopar King]

Ditto. I love when people grab the lane next to me at a stoplight thinking oh, its a jeep. Not to race but not to be held up by their legendary sluggishness. I would do the same thing especially if a hill was coming up.

A full send later and I'm grinning ear to ear. I particularly love it when its a sportier car that just cant get that much power down quick enough to catch me out of a dig even when I'm fully loaded down with RTT up top etc.

ha-ha - you must be racing some sluggish 4 cylinder "sports cars".

 

[staying_tuned]

ha-ha - you must be racing some sluggish 4 cylinder "sports cars".

Yes, that's exactly right along with all mid-size and most full-size PUs. We're talking from a dig with inherently immense traction on my end due to my tires and additional weight in the rear. We have quick cars in the family, huge motorsports fans (selling a built TT 350Z now actually). I would never say the EcoD is quick nor fast by any stretch but the manifestation of 4xx lb/ft at 1,600 RPMs shocks those who would, at first glance, otherwise categorize my truck as somewhat of an inconvenience that they must get around quickly as to not slow down their errand.

Not all unasuming 4-bangers are slow btw: https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/index.php?threads/staying_tuneds-mk7-r-build.379122/ (c7s & m3s... nom nom nom)

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