Things you don't notice at first - Or for a while

[ShadowsPapa]

Hiding in plain sight. Push this button when hooked to a trailer to turn off the annoying back up alarm. You’re welcome

I had to laugh - at myself - because I knew about it but every time I have something hanging out the back of the truck or a trailer on back I curse that damned noise.
You just made me laugh at myself. It's that - oh, xxxx moment where you realize the solution was but a button push away. You knew it, but when needed, you didn't.

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[Casique]

The reality is that most buyers usually know more than the salesperson that sold you the Jeep. My salesperson told me that my JT had cooled seats! I knew better.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The reality is that most buyers usually know more than the salesperson that sold you the Jeep. My salesperson told me that my JT had cooled seats! I knew better.

Yes, a sad reality for sure. The guy at a nearby dealership contacted me again last week and said that because I wanted so many options it would take longer for them to build it.
I thought - really? That hasn't been the case for longer than I've been alive, not even in 1950, and especially now. Hasn't any sales person been through an auto maker plant? Have they not seen how the dashes are installed, fully assembled, from the side of the vehicle, all one piece? Doors are built with your options already on them, just waiting to drop into the body half of the hinge.

 

[Garemlin]

The reality is that most buyers usually know more than the salesperson that sold you the Jeep. My salesperson told me that my JT had cooled seats! I knew better.

So true. I've had a few sales guys tell me I know more about the vehicle than they do.

I remember doing a short stint in car sales back in the late 80s. I spent so much time researching and learning about the vehicles I sold. Of course this was way before people had the ability to research a vehicle on the internet and know everything about it before stepping into a dealer. Customers relied on your to know and show. That's what sold vehicles.

 

[OHJeeper]

I had to laugh - at myself - because I knew about it but every time I have something hanging out the back of the truck or a trailer on back I curse that damned noise.
You just made me laugh at myself. It's that - oh, xxxx moment where you realize the solution was but a button push away. You knew it, but when needed, you didn't.

Or drive in reverse faster than 5 MPH... parksense complains you're going too fast and shuts off. Happens to me every time I back down my driveway.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Or drive in reverse faster than 5 MPH... parksense complains you're going too fast and shuts off. Happens to me every time I back down my driveway.

Yes, and with a driveway over 120 feet long that is down-hill toward the garage, and my wife and I both back our Jeeps down into the garage - we get that almost daily. I'd forgotten about that tidbit.

 

[ZoMojave]

Dang kids, will you quit complicating things with logic? It's so un-internet-like.

Those dang kids! Nothin' but trouble!

 

[Rahkmalla]

That's piss-poor business

I agree with everything you've said. But I've worked with a lot of car salesmen of all age and experience levels. From new guy in the business on his 5th dealership in under 2 years to 35 years selling Fords at one dealership. Product knowledge is uniformly piss poor. The guys who took their time to learn the product are few and far between.

When I started selling Fords I told my sales manager I needed to drive one of every model and sit in and play with one of every trim we currently had on the lot for each model. This was a guy in his late 50s who started as a lot guy at 16 and became a salesmen at 18 and a moved up from there. He said "I've never met a salesperson who was so interested in wasting time getting to know the cars. Salesmen sell people, the cars sell themselves."

I'll never forget that turd of a boss. But he did hold the prevailing mindset, which is sad.

 

[PlayfulBird]

That we have a fat crack in the plastic over the Speedo

 

[MisterPhoton]

LeVar Burton wouldn't be happy with a few people, and my teachers would be rolling over in their graves. ?

Isn't anyone really curious? No one breaks out a book? No wonder libraries are closing.
Sorry, I just HAD to get that stuff in there!

I guess I'm just a weirdo, because the day I ordered my Gladiator I downloaded the PDF manual and read through the whole thing.

And it still hasn't been built yet

 

[ZoMojave]

I agree with everything you've said. But I've worked with a lot of car salesmen of all age and experience levels. From new guy in the business on his 5th dealership in under 2 years to 35 years selling Fords at one dealership. Product knowledge is uniformly piss poor. The guys who took their time to learn the product are few and far between.

When I started selling Fords I told my sales manager I needed to drive one of every model and sit in and play with one of every trim we currently had on the lot for each model. This was a guy in his late 50s who started as a lot guy at 16 and became a salesmen at 18 and a moved up from there. He said "I've never met a salesperson who was so interested in wasting time getting to know the cars. Salesmen sell people, the cars sell themselves."

I'll never forget that turd of a boss. But he did hold the prevailing mindset, which is sad.

As a technician for a couple of GM dealerships for 30 years, I worked with some very interesting people. Including some sales personnel that were really pieces of work (and that is putting it nicely). Seemed that some were just there to draw their base and smoke cigarettes. They cared nothing about earning business let alone educating themselves on products that they were hired to sell.

Then on the other hand, we had the consummate sales professionals that took great pride in the day to day operations and completely shattered the stereotype of the typical "car salesman".

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I guess I'm just a weirdo, because the day I ordered my Gladiator I downloaded the PDF manual and read through the whole thing.

And it still hasn't been built yet

When there's a question of "what's this thing", I pretty much know where it is in the "book".
Mine came with a hard copy I keep in the truck, but the PDF one is on my Google Drive so I can get to it from anywhere.
But then I spend a lot of my time while relaxing doing reading - tech manuals, TSBs, etc.
I rarely "sit down and read a good book" like a novel or whatever and I've often been asked when was the last time I read a book and what was it........... likely the title would be something like "Automotive transmission circuits and diagnosis" or maybe "1982 AMC Technical Service Manual".
But I do go cover to cover on each edition of Woodsmith magazine - great tips and projects in there.
Other books are typically something by Azimov, and I've read "Can You Tell What it is Yet", "I, Me, Mine", that sort of thing.

 

[Dryfly24]

So true. I've had a few sales guys tell me I know more about the vehicle than they do.

I remember doing a short stint in car sales back in the late 80s. I spent so much time researching and learning about the vehicles I sold. Of course this was way before people had the ability to research a vehicle on the internet and know everything about it before stepping into a dealer. Customers relied on your to know and show. That's what sold vehicles.

I literally knew more than every single one I talked to and I talked to a lot of dealers before pulling the trigger. That’s not saying I know so much, it’s saying they know so little…

 

[Broccoli]

LeVar Burton wouldn't be happy with a few people, and my teachers would be rolling over in their graves. ?

Isn't anyone really curious? No one breaks out a book? No wonder libraries are closing.
Sorry, I just HAD to get that stuff in there!

 

[ShadowsPapa]

You might just find something interesting going on at the library.

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