STOLEN from my driveway this morning! New Jeeps are crazy easy to steal apparently...

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[NachoRuby]

Self defeatist attitude doesn't work for me, I have never lived my life that way. And just on principle, neither does letting thieves steel from me...Using your logic as a reason is really just an excuse to be complacent. With your POV, which of course you are welcome too, might as well leave your front door unlocked on your house. Put a sign up take whatever you want just don't hurt us. I'm sure you will get plenty of "friendly" thieves who will accommodate you.

Jeeps aren't on any list I've seen of most commonly stolen vehicles. Sure it happens, but all the vehicles on the list have hood locks, and they still get stolen. Challengers aren't on the list either, but they get stolen a lot, and they have hood locks, so I agree Mopar has a fob issue. But I don't think hood locks will prevent this. They'll keep most opportunists from stealing your intake or any under hood bling though, agreed. But if I modify my engine, I'd definitely get hood locks. In the meantime, FCA/Stellantis/Whoever need to fix the fob security issues.

Things shouldn't be stolen, true. It sucks...but its reality. And parking them outside is just bait for car thieves, thats also reality.

I stand by my garage logic. Not everyone has to agree.

I agree a garage is safer than not having one. But it's just not practicable for a lot of people. And it also doesn't prevent everything. It's just another layer of security that's great if you have it.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I'm from Tyler, and the New Chapel Hill area (Smith County). I also have family in the rural area surrounding Dallas in North Texas (Kaufman County). Few homes had garages. Newer houses or developments may be more likely to have them. Where I lived, and where many people live, there is no garage. Let's not victim blame. Lots of people don't have garages. Lots of people have more cars than garage storage spaces, since many homes, if built with a garage, have only one bay. Some people live in apartments or condos. Some people only have street parking.

The only thing I agree with here is that that's why we have insurance. Everyone doesn't park in a garage. Everyone doesn't have one, and just because someone "can't afford" a garage doesn't mean they should have their stuff stolen. Your car shouldn't get stolen just because you park it outside.

Depending on where you are - some are sans garage due to costs, zoning, other things. Many homes here have a single car garage, others a 2 car - and yet with his and hers vehicles and then Jane with her car she uses to get to school and work after school, something will sit out. And if zoning won't allow more garage, or there's simply no space on that urban lot - one of those vehicles sits outside, period, and there's zip anyone can do about it.
One reason I refuse to live in "town" or the urban areas here - you can't keep some things on your own property. I moved because the city came along and said my car hauler had to go. I could only bring a camper into my own driveway if I was getting it ready to go, or had just come back and then I had xx days to take it away - it wasn't even big at 22'
So we said screw it and moved to the country - where the county says I can't have any building taller than my single story house, must have concrete under all vehicles, no exceptions, etc.

 

[BLK HOLE]

I agree a garage is safer than not having one. But it's just not practicable for a lot of people. And it also doesn't prevent everything. It's just another layer of security that's great if you have it.

It absolutely prevents...cars in driveways/streets/lots are TWO HUNDRED TIMES more likely to be stolen VS their garaged counterparts.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

If you have one. And one that'll fit a gladiator. Mine won't fully fit (too long for the door to close), and lots of folks just don't have garages.

And there's one reason I traded my Silverado...... too big to fit without leaving something else out like one of my cars, the lawn tractor, whatever. Many attached garages just aren't made for a pickup, especially as long as these - and these are short compared to some.

 

[NachoRuby]

It absolutely prevents...cars in driveways/streets/lots are TWO HUNDRED TIMES more likely to be stolen VS their garaged counterparts.

Didn't say it prevents nothing. I said it doesn't prevent everything. When my house was broken into, they found the garage door opener and opened the garage. Luckily, I don't think they could drive stick. I had a challenger at the time. They got pissed off and ransacked the whole house. Got nothing good. Just broke stuff

 

[BLK HOLE]

And there's one reason I traded my Silverado...... too big to fit without leaving something else out like one of my cars, the lawn tractor, whatever. Many attached garages just aren't made for a pickup, especially as long as these - and these are short compared to some.

Tacomas and Gladiators are the same length. Modern garages fit JTs just fine. Mine parks in one and its lifted with 39s.

Modern garages don't fit full size trucks well, thats for sure.

 

[joeym7]

Jeeps aren't on any list I've seen of most commonly stolen vehicles. Sure it happens, but all the vehicles on the list have hood locks, and they still get stolen. Challengers aren't on the list either, but they get stolen a lot, and they have hood locks, so I agree Mopar has a fob issue. But I don't think hood locks will prevent this.


I agree a garage is safer than not having one. But it's just not practicable for a lot of people. And it also doesn't prevent everything. It's just another layer of security that's great if you have it.

I don't think anyone on the entire thread (I certainly didn't) said that hood locks will prevent all thefts all the time. But it is faulty logic to conclude they will (not) prevent some thefts some of the time. They will.... You have to think of security as a system which is built on several components. None fool proof, but together make a dam good package and deterrent.

For example, on my home I have more than door locks, I have automatic flood lights, an alarm (and the cops really show up here!), I have video camera's, and if all else fails I have a 45 pistol. I sleep very well at night ;-).

I think it is fair to say Jeeps have a weak security package...Is it any worse than other manufacturers? I don't know, but at prices up to $70,000 a pop I'd like to see them do better. They could start with the hood lock, easy fix LOL, and maybe then they can graduate to "fix-the-fob".

 

[BLK HOLE]

Didn't say it prevents nothing. I said it doesn't prevent everything. When my house was broken into, they found the garage door opener and opened the garage.

Can't prevent it all...but you can statistically reduce your chances greatly. Good lighting, locked doors, garaged vehicles, good alarm, good video system, placards stating said facts on video and alarms. Even an alert dog. Goes a long way. Removing any one or all of those elevates your chances significantly.

Not every situation fits...but, in general...financially speaking...its bad financial form to live in an apartment with with a 60K vehicle parked in the lot and outside. Considering, in general, the two largest money expenses for people are living quarters and vehicles...and an apartment and 60K truck are 2 nearly sunk costs for said person. Meaning most likely 40-70% of their income is going towards sunk costs. Which is why I said, in general, if you can't afford to get your vehicle secured then there's a strong chance that you cannot afford the vehicle.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

and no gas cap lock (a sign of Jeep "arrogance" IMO)

Wouldn't matter - you can't get a hose in there.......
I just grabbed a box of various fuel hoses, vacuum lines, vinyl tubing and other stuff and decided to prove that it could be done.
I spent 10-15 minutes and couldn't get even a 1/4" vacuum line in - 5/16" fuel injection hose wouldn't go, I just couldn't get it done. It felt like the check valve was blocking me. I couldn't even get the lines wet and my truck's tank is at about 3/4-7.8 full, worth the attempt if I was a crook.
So we can stop blasting Jeep for lack of a locking fuel cap - doesn't matter if you can't get into the fill tube or through the tube into the fuel in the tank.

 

[NachoRuby]

Wouldn't matter - you can't get a hose in there.......
I just grabbed a box of various fuel hoses, vacuum lines, vinyl tubing and other stuff and decided to prove that it could be done.
I spent 10-15 minutes and couldn't get even a 1/4" vacuum line in - 5/16" fuel injection hose wouldn't go, I just couldn't get it done. It felt like the check valve was blocking me. I couldn't even get the lines wet and my truck's tank is at about 3/4-7.8 full, worth the attempt if I was a crook.
So we can stop blasting Jeep for lack of a locking fuel cap - doesn't matter if you can't get into the fill tube or through the tube into the fuel in the tank.

F150s don't have locking fuel tanks. Rangers don't have locking gas caps. Tacoma's might now, but until recently, they didn't. I don't know if the new ones do, but as recently as 2019, they didn't. That one is decidedly not a jeep thing.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Can't prevent it all...but you can statistically reduce your chances greatly. Good lighting, locked doors, garaged vehicles, good alarm, good video system,

This ^
If someone is determined, they'll take it. It "depends" on them, the situation, the timing and a ton of other factors.
The bottom line of it all is - you can reduce the odds.

In my case, I have a faulty automatic light on the front of the garage that goes off if a bunch of monarchs fly by, or it's windy and leaves move around - and my neighbors got used to watching that light and if it came on at night it bothered them and they'd go look out their windows. (Larry has guns and Joyce can be scary at times - she didn't recognize my brother one day when he came by to see me (and I wasn't home) and she ran over to see who he was and what he was doing there. I told my wife I will do whatever it takes to keep them from moving away - I'll mow their lawn, move their snow, help him with his repairs, anything)

Lighting can help, modern stuff is relatively inexpensive and easy - heck, get Amazon involved with Ring stuff. I'm thinking about it........

Good watch cats help, too......... our Tonkinese are based on Siamese, temple guard cats of the past. When we see them at attention looking out a door or window, or running from one room to another to check a different window - we know to go look to see what has their interest. There is always something there, animal or person.

 

[RalphTuttle]

It's too easy to get inside a Jeep, it's crazy. I've read people can use signal boosters to ping your keyfob from outside for opening the doors. Not only that but I locked my keys inside a few weeks ago, the local PD came with this $12 kit and got right in!

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Either way, I just bought these after reading OPs post. I figure 1 will do the trick, so this 2-pack should cover both my JT and JL. They look like stock besides obviously the center piece with the lock, so I don't think it'll look wonky only having 1.

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Best of luck with your insurance claim and whatnot, maybe you can get a new model year! Haha.

Thaks for posting this link. I am ordering the same locks immediately. I am ordering them directly through Rugged Ridge as they are cheaper than on Amazon!

 

[ShadowsPapa]

F150s don't have locking fuel tanks. Rangers don't have locking gas caps. Tacoma's might now, but until recently, they didn't. I don't know if the new ones do, but as recently as 2019, they didn't. That one is decidedly not a jeep thing.

Agreed - it's a hit and miss thing of the industry, but in most cases, there's an accessory or a 3rd party making something.
My point with my comment was - people keep bashing Jeep for not caring and not having a locking cap. It doesn't matter, you aren't going to siphon out of a Gladiator anyway, so stop fretting about a cap that won't matter.
So Jeep doesn't COME WITH a locking cap - two things about that -
Neither do a lot of other trucks and cars
and
It won't matter if you can't get a hose into the fuel supply.

 

[NachoRuby]

I don't know, but at prices up to $70,000 a pop I'd like to see them do better. They could start with the hood lock, easy fix LOL, and maybe then they can graduate to "fix-the-fob".

As long as the latches are still on the outside, and it's key lockable, like the aftermarket ones, I wouldn't mind it being lockable. I wouldn't like to see the latches on the outside go away, though.

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