STOLEN from my driveway this morning! New Jeeps are crazy easy to steal apparently...

[ShadowsPapa]

Well his pic shows to have a garage. And lets not pretend that A LOT of people don't keep 500 dollars of shit in their garages and 100K in vehicles outside of it. You are WAY less likely to have a vehicle stolen from inside a garage.

You don't have to adopt my logic here...but I'd personally say that if you cannot afford to garage it then you likely cannot afford a vehicle...or at least you likely should have a vehicle nobody would want to steal. Or be OK with it being stolen (thats what insurance is for).

I agree with first paragraph, but......
The second appears to imply some things........ many garages, even in NICE neighborhoods, won't fit a Gladiator, and there are families that have 3 vehicles. In fact, some around me have vehicles sitting out because they have 2 or 3 teenage kids, wife needs her car, husband needs his.
Can't afford a garage is a bit, well......... what if it's not about affording?
Have you visited every city, town, township or village?
There are laws, rules, zoning and so on.
To say that "if you can't afford a garage......." should decide what else they should or shouldn't have some might see as a bit judgmental, maybe, just saying.

So you are retired, live in a nice house in town, it's all paid for, but the garage is small, maybe not deep, maybe single car garage, and you have decided to finally have a Jeep - according to your logic, that person doesn't deserve one, or at least shouldn't own one since they can't garage it. So they either have to move - at great expense, or do without.

Meh, sorry, maybe I'm just taking that wrong - but I know for a fact some don't have garages that can hold a Jeep for reasons beyond "their fault"........ and I'd never suggest "then they shouldn't own anything nice". Owning nice things is reserved for the wealthy or those who live in areas without zoning laws.

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[Rabbit454]

This will slow them down.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Didn't say it prevents nothing. I said it doesn't prevent everything. When my house was broken into, they found the garage door opener and opened the garage. Luckily, I don't think they could drive stick. I had a challenger at the time. They got pissed off and ransacked the whole house. Got nothing good. Just broke stuff

Vehicles have been stolen from garages,
Garages have been broken into and gas stolen and vehicles vandalized in the attempts.
And that's within an hour's drive.
Garages do help prevent certain things. What can't be seen is a mystery and many crooks prefer a known quantity - they may spend time breaking into to find nothing, waste of time, but down the block sits a vehicle in a driveway or on the street - ah, a known quantity.
We keep the overhead doors closed when it's not necessary to have them open. My wife doesn't want people going by to see what's in there. She is right - people can drive by, scope things out, make a list of places to hit complete with goals and pictures of what's there.
Door closed, it could be an old busted VW Rabbit worth a whopping 50 bucks - and no gas.
Door open - they know what's there, they decide while driving by.
Where I'm at - if someone broke into the garage, they'd have plenty of time to do their thing. If my truck was in the driveway, they might have my neighbor shooting at them.
That's where alarms are great, and why I opted for a garage door opener that has optional video, monitoring of all times the door is open or closed, including how long it was open, etc. - and it can alert me by phone if the door is opened when I have it set to alert. I plan on replacing our other opener with one like it even though the opener on my wife's Jeep side is not that old.
If they somehow got that door open, I could have video of them inside the garage - sent to my phone.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

As long as the latches are still on the outside, and it's key lockable, like the aftermarket ones, I wouldn't mind it being lockable. I wouldn't like to see the latches on the outside go away, though.

I have wondered about something like some of the AMC people have done - rig a cable from the hood latch striker down to a solid part of the car below with a lock that can be locked or unlocked, but tucked up in such a way that bolt cutters couldn't easily get to it. You wouldn't have to leave it that way all the time, just when you left the Jeep where it might be unsecured.

 

[saintpauljeff]

This ^
If someone is determined, they'll take it. It "depends" on them, the situation, the timing and a ton of other factors.
The bottom line of it all is - you can reduce the odds.

Lighting can help, modern stuff is relatively inexpensive and easy - heck, get Amazon involved with Ring stuff. I'm thinking about it........

this is my strategy, since I live in the riotous area of South Minneapolis (where crime roams free very often)

4 Ring cameras around my property, house alarm, etc. I've practiced middle of night reaction time, mainly in the event of catalytic converter theft possibility. 4 minutes to steal a truck gives me more than 3 minutes to dissuade them face to face.

 

[2na]

Being that the OP is Canadian, south of his border would put the Jeep in America.
But this isn't the first time Canadian thieves have stolen Jeeps.

ROFL...

 

[NachoRuby]

Vehicles have been stolen from garages,
Garages have been broken into and gas stolen and vehicles vandalized in the attempts.
And that's within an hour's drive.
Garages do help prevent certain things. What can't be seen is a mystery and many crooks prefer a known quantity - they may spend time breaking into to find nothing, waste of time, but down the block sits a vehicle in a driveway or on the street - ah, a known quantity.
We keep the overhead doors closed when it's not necessary to have them open. My wife doesn't want people going by to see what's in there. She is right - people can drive by, scope things out, make a list of places to hit complete with goals and pictures of what's there.
Door closed, it could be an old busted VW Rabbit worth a whopping 50 bucks - and no gas.
Door open - they know what's there, they decide while driving by.
Where I'm at - if someone broke into the garage, they'd have plenty of time to do their thing. If my truck was in the driveway, they might have my neighbor shooting at them.
That's where alarms are great, and why I opted for a garage door opener that has optional video, monitoring of all times the door is open or closed, including how long it was open, etc. - and it can alert me by phone if the door is opened when I have it set to alert. I plan on replacing our other opener with one like it even though the opener on my wife's Jeep side is not that old.
If they somehow got that door open, I could have video of them inside the garage - sent to my phone.

We have that now, but the break-in happened right when we moved in. We hadn't bought an alarm yet. We had literally talked about it the night before it happened. I'm sure someone was scoping the new neighbors out. Now, I have apps, phones, cameras, lights, alarms, motions sensors, etc.

I'll note, though, that OP had cameras too. They still got it. He has it on video. And you can't set it to set the alarm off everytime something moves, or you'll get tons of false alerts.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

this is my strategy, since I live in the riotous area of South Minneapolis (where crime roams free very often)

4 Ring cameras around my property, house alarm, etc. I've practiced middle of night reaction time, mainly in the event of catalytic converter theft possibility. 4 minutes to steal a truck gives me more than 3 minutes to dissuade them face to face.

Some time I want to ask about the Ring stuff - my wife has suggested it because her friends are constantly talking about the rising thefts and such in their areas - only 30-60 minutes from us.
The catalytic converter thing is crazy - cordless saws get the job done in 2 minutes. Noisy, but they don't seem to give a rip and if they are fast, they'll be there, take it, and gone before anyone else gets there. Time is on their side, noise doesn't matter.......and with the reduced law enforcement, they know time is on their side.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Being that the OP is Canadian, south of his border would put the Jeep in America.
But this isn't the first time Canadian thieves have stolen Jeeps.

How did I miss that one - it's a classic! Danged Canadians keep us all confused.

Well, having driven by some of the shops and garages I have over the years, that Canadian Jeep may well be here.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

We have that now, but the break-in happened right when we moved in. We hadn't bought an alarm yet. We had literally talked about it the night before it happened. I'm sure someone was scoping the new neighbors out. Now, I have apps, phones, cameras, lights, alarms, motions sensors, etc.

I'll note, though, that OP had cameras too. They still got it. He has it on video. And you can't set it to set the alarm off everytime something moves, or you'll get tons of false alerts.

I've owned my JT for a good 2 and a half years now. My wife has had Grand Cherokees since they were introduced, and yet I can't answer this simple question - but I'll ask it in public anyway........
If a thief does NOT have your FOB signal, and your Jeep is locked, it will sound an alarm if there's a break-in attempt, correct?
If that's true, then (ah, another if/then statement)
If the alarm does not go off, it implies that the crooks had a valid FOB signal, the Jeep thought the owner was unlocking it, and no alarm.
Maybe that's already been said........... if so, sorry, if not - would that be correct?

No legit FOB or FOB signal and the truck is locked, alarm goes off
If truck is locked and the crook has copied a FOB signal, whatever their process is at this very hour on the very day, then the truck won't honk.

So no honk implies they have the stuff the truck was expecting to receive.

 

[2na]

OP...Sorry for your lost. I hope the insurance process will be painless...

 

[NachoRuby]

I've owned my JT for a good 2 and a half years now. My wife has had Grand Cherokees since they were introduced, and yet I can't answer this simple question - but I'll ask it in public anyway........
If a thief does NOT have your FOB signal, and your Jeep is locked, it will sound an alarm if there's a break-in attempt, correct?
If that's true, then (ah, another if/then statement)
If the alarm does not go off, it implies that the crooks had a valid FOB signal, the Jeep thought the owner was unlocking it, and no alarm.
Maybe that's already been said........... if so, sorry, if not - would that be correct?

No legit FOB or FOB signal and the truck is locked, alarm goes off
If truck is locked and the crook has copied a FOB signal, whatever their process is at this very hour on the very day, then the truck won't honk.

So no honk implies they have the stuff the truck was expecting to receive.

You can open the hood without it setting off an alarm, unless you've enabled the hood alarm with tazer/jscan. No idea why. But there is a shock sensor, and there is a tamper alarm. I'm also not sure if base sports have alarms at all. The owners manual just says "if equipped". But you can't hotwire modern cars, so they had to steal some signal to get it to start. They bypassed everything.

 

[BLK HOLE]

I agree with first paragraph, but......
The second appears to imply some things........ many garages, even in NICE neighborhoods, won't fit a Gladiator, and there are families that have 3 vehicles. In fact, some around me have vehicles sitting out because they have 2 or 3 teenage kids, wife needs her car, husband needs his.
Can't afford a garage is a bit, well......... what if it's not about affording?
Have you visited every city, town, township or village?
There are laws, rules, zoning and so on.
To say that "if you can't afford a garage......." should decide what else they should or shouldn't have some might see as a bit judgmental, maybe, just saying.

So you are retired, live in a nice house in town, it's all paid for, but the garage is small, maybe not deep, maybe single car garage, and you have decided to finally have a Jeep - according to your logic, that person doesn't deserve one, or at least shouldn't own one since they can't garage it. So they either have to move - at great expense, or do without.

Meh, sorry, maybe I'm just taking that wrong - but I know for a fact some don't have garages that can hold a Jeep for reasons beyond "their fault"........ and I'd never suggest "then they shouldn't own anything nice". Owning nice things is reserved for the wealthy or those who live in areas without zoning laws.

Those are all exceptions now. Vast majority of the country has access to homes with garages.

 

[joeym7]

As long as the latches are still on the outside, and it's key lockable, like the aftermarket ones, I wouldn't mind it being lockable. I wouldn't like to see the latches on the outside go away, though.

Your safe ...Even the MOPAR and Bolt after-market hood locks which mount right behind the grill don't change anything as far as the latches on the sides...I've grown to like the look too (at first I thought they were weird ;-)).

 

[NachoRuby]

Those are all exceptions now. Vast majority of the country has access to homes with garages.

The stats I can find show that 63% have access to a garage OR carport. That's counting open carports, and it's also counting 1 car garages or 2 car garages, when many families have 2 or 3 cars, so something stays out. It also means that 37% don't have a garage or carport at all.
It also varies greatly by region, with the lowest percentages being in the northeast (slightly less than half) and the south (a bit more than half).

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