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I have searched the forum for the last few days and haven't located any answers. I could just as easily have missed it because I royally suck at these search bars. Is there anyone out here that has a smaller lift (2-3 inches) and has had good luck with rear bags for towing/loads? Any help is appreciated.
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I have searched the forum for the last few days and haven't located any answers. I could just as easily have missed it because I royally suck at these search bars. Is there anyone out here that has a smaller lift (2-3 inches) and has had good luck with rear bags for towing/loads? Any help is appreciated.
Seems like a lot of folks like the Air Lift 1000, I have a set on the workbench waiting for some time to install. I'm running the AEV 2" spacer lift so still on my stock Rubicon springs.

https://www.airliftcompany.com/workshop/air-lift-1000-install-2020-jeep-gladiator/

I've seen some guys running the Firestone's as well.

https://www.sdtrucksprings.com/inde...7054&msclkid=be92f3f2a98619bf1ca491be5865266a

No experience with either of them but these seem to be the two that most folks that aren't running SUMO springs are running.

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I’m betting I’ll get blasted for this question, but oh well. Can I ask, if people are needing air bags to fix sagging with these springs, why are these springs being chosen? It seems like it would make more sense to use different rear springs that address the load issue without bandaids. I’m sure these springs work fine for people that don’t have bed racks and/or tents, or never put hundreds of pounds of stuff in the bed. For the people that do, maybe different springs make more sense than air bags. I for one do load mine up, so used ram 1500 springs for a 3” lift in the rear. It works perfectly on and off road, with or without it loaded. That’s towing with a full bed, while off road.
 

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I’m betting I’ll get blasted for this question, but oh well. Can I ask, if people are needing air bags to fix sagging with these springs, why are these springs being chosen? It seems like it would make more sense to use different rear springs that address the load issue without bandaids. I’m sure these springs work fine for people that don’t have bed racks and/or tents, or never put hundreds of pounds of stuff in the bed. For the people that do, maybe different springs make more sense than air bags. I for one do load mine up, so used ram 1500 springs for a 3” lift in the rear. It works perfectly on and off road, with or without it loaded. That’s towing with a full bed, while off road.
No blasting here. The reason I like the bags on past trucks is because I can air down to "normal" spring rate without load. When I have a travel trailer attached I can add air for assistance. I will have a travel trailer with a weight distribution/sway hitch installed. The bags are just helping. When I wheel with the JTR on the same trip I will just take the air out. This is my plan anyways. You know how making a plan goes.
 

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No blasting here. The reason I like the bags on past trucks is because I can air down to "normal" spring rate without load. When I have a travel trailer attached I can add air for assistance. I will have a travel trailer with a weight distribution/sway hitch installed. The bags are just helping. When I wheel with the JTR on the same trip I will just take the air out. This is my plan anyways. You know how making a plan goes.
I’m not an air bag expert, but with them empty, are they easily pinched or punctured? Makes sense. Thanks.
 

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I’m betting I’ll get blasted for this question, but oh well. Can I ask, if people are needing air bags to fix sagging with these springs, why are these springs being chosen? It seems like it would make more sense to use different rear springs that address the load issue without bandaids. I’m sure these springs work fine for people that don’t have bed racks and/or tents, or never put hundreds of pounds of stuff in the bed. For the people that do, maybe different springs make more sense than air bags. I for one do load mine up, so used ram 1500 springs for a 3” lift in the rear. It works perfectly on and off road, with or without it loaded. That’s towing with a full bed, while off road.
Currently no one is making springs for the JT with weight considerations. It is all about the daily driver comfort level while also providing the desired lift.

The air bags offer the resistance to make it act like a stiffer spring when needed, but allowing the comfort
 

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To the OP, others have used the AirLift bags for a Dodge when they have lifted.
 

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Currently no one is making springs for the JT with weight considerations. It is all about the daily driver comfort level while also providing the desired lift.

The air bags offer the resistance to make it act like a stiffer spring when needed, but allowing the comfort
I disagree. Check out the BDS ram 1500 rear spring mod for 3” lifts. I’m running them and have zero issues. No air bags, no sag when loaded bed and towing (300+ lb tongue weight), and rides great off road and on, even when daily driving with an empty bed.
 

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I disagree. Check out the BDS ram 1500 rear spring mod for 3” lifts. I’m running them and have zero issues. No air bags, no sag when loaded bed and towing (300+ lb tongue weight), and rides great off road and on, even when daily driving with an empty bed.
I guess you missed the part about made for a JT?

Disagree all you want, you took a lift for another vehicle and adapted it to your vehicle.
The springs weren't made for a JT, they were made for a 1/2 ton pickup.
 

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I guess you missed the part about made for a JT?

Disagree all you want, you took a lift for another vehicle and adapted it to your vehicle.
The springs weren't made for a JT, they were made for a 1/2 ton pickup.
If you’re going to be like that, I’ll happily throw it back in your face. Nothing aftermarket is “made for a JT” unless it’s Mopar aftermarket. BDS is not mopar, and these springs are manufactured to work with JT’s with 3” lifts, when better weight capacity is wanted. They were also recommended and installed by a reputable Jeep customization shop, and BDS stands behind the springs when used in a JT. No different than clayton, except clayton doesn’t stand behind their springs when JT’s sag in the rear after their kits are installed. Which leads to people searching forums for a solution. I just gave a viable, tested solution that doesn’t require air bags. Simpler is usually better. Not a single mod is “made for a JT”. These parts are made by aftermarket companies to “work with” gladiators, depending on model year and trim.
 

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I guess you missed the part about made for a JT?

Disagree all you want, you took a lift for another vehicle and adapted it to your vehicle.
The springs weren't made for a JT, they were made for a 1/2 ton pickup.
By the way, a JT is a 1/2 ton pickup. Just a mid sized one.
On a more positive note, you’re welcome to come take a look at mine. I don’t think you’d be disappointed in how it looks or performs. No sketchy adaptations here. Just well planned out design, with overlanding, towing/hauling, and rock crawling in mind. It does all of those things very well.

edit: Here’s a picture of mine with a loaded bed, probably 400-500lbs, and the trailer hooked up. No sag in sight. It tows beautifully this way, and off-roads even better.
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If you’re going to be like that, I’ll happily throw it back in your face. Nothing aftermarket is “made for a JT” unless it’s Mopar aftermarket. BDS is not mopar, and these springs are manufactured to work with JT’s with 3” lifts, when better weight capacity is wanted. They were also recommended and installed by a reputable Jeep customization shop, and BDS stands behind the springs when used in a JT. No different than clayton, except clayton doesn’t stand behind their springs when JT’s sag in the rear after their kits are installed. Which leads to people searching forums for a solution. I just gave a viable, tested solution that doesn’t require air bags. Simpler is usually better. Not a single mod is “made for a JT”. These parts are made by aftermarket companies to “work with” gladiators, depending on model year and trim.
Of course we stand behind our springs and all of our products. All of our springs are listed with published spring rates, and we are always happy to disclose how much extra weight our springs are capable of handling. We use a higher spring rate than most other companies, and our springs have been great for a lot of guys looking to carry around 500 additional pounds of weight. We have even been developing an HD set of rear coil springs to push that number even further. The OP is not stating the vehicle is sagging in the rear after installation as our kits leave about an inch of rake, rather he is looking for a solution for when he is towing heavy loads.
 

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I have searched the forum for the last few days and haven't located any answers. I could just as easily have missed it because I royally suck at these search bars. Is there anyone out here that has a smaller lift (2-3 inches) and has had good luck with rear bags for towing/loads? Any help is appreciated.
Hey there! Have you already had the kit installed and tested with your towing setup? The rear coils are usually very capable of handling additional weight, and you shouldn't expect to run into any issues. If it's something extremely heavy being pulled, give us a call and we can help to figure out the best solution for your setup!
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