2022 Rumors?

[Jglad15]

Wow. That’s a game changer, I’m triple glad I didn’t wait out the 22’s.

Game changer? It’s like a 500-600 dollar diff

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[Jefe1018]

Game changer? It’s like a 500-600 dollar diff

1% below invoice, considering most don’t want to drop below MSRP even that affiliate number is a big help in negotiating.

 

[lrtexasman]

That tow rating is for that engine in a 1500 chasis, right? I’d imagine a Ram 1500 Rebel with the eco-diesel is likely similar.

The following is my perspective and not at all a dig at anyone:

No other truck can take the doors and roof off, have solid front axle and have the cool factor that Jeep’s do. We drink a different kind of Kool Aid on this site, it’s why they get away with being so got dang expensive and still selling. Having stupid number of leaking roofs, cracked windshields, and still be just cool.

Until Ford or someone else decides to make a direct competitor like the Bronco minus the botched pandemic era launch, JTs are truly in an era of their own. A ‘lifestyle’ vehicle as some would put it.

for sure. The JT is the only new convertible truck. And I think it’s the off-road truck as well.

 

[spectre6000]

If the Gladiator stays mostly the same (no 4xe or new colors / drivetrain combos) I'll likely order a 2022 ZR2 diesel. Problems are hit and miss, the diesel thread on here still wouldn't steer me away from ordering a Gladiator diesel.

Let me expand a little. The QC issues I experienced were chalked up to the truck having been built immediately after the big strike in 3Q19. Imagine the shitshow you'd leave the lot with under the current state of things.

 

[lrtexasman]

My dad talked to the Ram dealer he ordered through (mentioned above), and they confirmed the discount is disappearing. He ordered a '22 (already out), but the dealer says they'll take care of it. Personally, I hope they do, but that seems like precisely the sort of trap dealers like to set to screw people.

Meanwhile:


Take it from me. I sold my '20 ZR2 Bison diesel with <8k miles due to quality issues. Three steering wheels, two infotainment systems, and the straw that broke my back was the engine burning multiple quarts of oil at a go, and GM refusing to stand behind it. I took advantage of the crazy used car market rather than get stuck under that engine (and who knows what else) when the warranty runs out. I went out of my way to sell it to a dealer (which I would NEVER do otherwise) so the buyer would be able to get an extended warranty on the thing... You're better off picking a slightly different shade of gray.

Good to know. I definitely am not interested in the current GM twins for a variety of reasons, including quality control.

 

[Jglad15]

1% below invoice, considering most don’t want to drop below MSRP even that affiliate number is a big help in negotiating.

Still only 500-600 bucks. But that’s just me, not gonna sway my decision on purchasing. But I’m also gonna go to one of the forum dealers on here and knock on wood get the below invoice pricing assuming that doesn’t change as well. But I do understand not everyone me is able to drive to one of those dealerships. So I’m fortunate on that aspect.

 

[UM_Ftown]

Let me expand a little. The QC issues I experienced were chalked up to the truck having been built immediately after the big strike in 3Q19. Imagine the shitshow you'd leave the lot with under the current state of things.

I noticed on GM's builders that for 2022 they're adding options for removal of certain electronic options on their vehicles I guess to make them get built faster. Like AFM, climate control displays, etc.

 

[Jefe1018]

Still only 500-600 bucks. But that’s just me, not gonna sway my decision on purchasing. But I’m also gonna go to one of the forum dealers on here and knock on wood get the below invoice pricing assuming that doesn’t change as well.

Are you sure its only $500-$600? Here’s a quote a local dealer gave me last year. Looks like roughly $2,700 between MSRP and invoice, from which you would subtract another $501.95. That’s $3201.95 off the MSRP to start.

 

[Challenger85]

Are you sure its only $500-$600? Here’s a quote a local dealer gave me last year. Looks like roughly $2,700 to me.

Are you for real? 1% is $530

 

[The Crusader]

Are you for real? 1% is $595.

How many % from MSRP is 1% below dealer invoice?

 

[Phishs]

Are you for real? 1% is $595.

He’s talking about from MSRP, all the way down to 1% below invoice.

 

[Jefe1018]

Are you for real? 1% is $595.

Yes… but it’s $2700 under MSRP to start, minus that extra $500.

How many % from MSRP is 1% below dealer invoice?

In the example above, roughly 5.2%.

 

[Challenger85]

How many % from MSRP is 1% below dealer invoice?

He’s talking about from MSRP, all the way down to 1% below invoice.

Yes… but it’s $2700 under MSRP to start, minus that extra $500.



In the example above, roughly 5.2%.

? oh is that what it is? Lol okay I take back what I said.

 

[Jefe1018]

? oh is that what it is? Lol okay I take back what I said.

Lol - I agree with what @Jglad15 said though - as long as you go to a volume dealer it will be $500-$600, but those attempting to wheel and deal with local dealers will be in an even bigger pickle trying to even get invoice.

Other dealers will play games with other similar programs like Costco (Only one I can think of off the top of my head).

 

[Jglad15]

Lol - I agree with what @Jglad15 said though - as long as you go to a volume dealer it will be $500-$600, but those attempting to wheel and deal with local dealers will be in an even bigger pickle trying to even get invoice.

Other dealers will play games with other similar programs like Costco (Only one I can think of off the top of my head).

Yeah I must have misquoted you then. For me assuming I go to gupton and hypothetically let’s say they were only offering 7%. Take away the tread lightly to 6% we are only talking 500 something. For me that’s not make or break the what? 50k I’m spending. But I understand from another dealership that’s a huge chunk of change.

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