3.0 ecodiesel

[AmosMoses]

With the diesel, don't you have to replace your fuel filter like once a month of something?

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[DylanM]

With the diesel, don't you have to replace your fuel filter like once a month of something?

The way some people make it sound, they'd sure like you to believe that.

Speaking of which, that reminds me I need to order another case of DEF filters, grease the EGR bearings, top up the intercooler refrigerant......

 

[Dave-in-RI]

The real question here is diesel now in a color that’s not bikini pearl, or waiting for a 3.6 in bikini pearl (and paying more for it). I can’t calculate that.

 

[Jefe1018]

With the diesel, don't you have to replace your fuel filter like once a month of something?

Twice a month, high maintenance. Big turd, we should cancel our insurance policies and toss them over a cliff to be reclaimed by the earth.

 

[Vtur]

You will be reading this in a 3.6 ?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Absolutely, money wise it’s a moot point. Even with the diesel being a $4,000 option, MSRP that is, with today’s discounts it can be had at a bargain.

Beyond the torque, no real need to regear for 37’s, the cool factor, where I find the most benefit is range. On a 160 mile round trip wheeling trip my friends are at 1/8 of a tank or E where I’ve got more than or halfway left. MPG per MPG you won’t save money, but being able to go anywhere between 290-360 gallons vs 190-240 on a tank is a big difference. This diesel sips fuel at idle and in 4lo where as the gasser tends to be a bit thirstier. On the highway, same story. My buddy gets 16 highway and 10 in the city or when wheeling on 38’s and 4.88’s - just is the nature of the beast.

I think you get where I am coming from - at least on some days, I am.
I won't tell any diesel owner they were fools for that choice. That's just wrong in so many ways.
I will say - it's not for me, for multiple reasons.
If you live in certain areas, tow certain things in those areas, or wheel off-road in certain ways - it's going to make a lot of sense, costs be damned. (and we could find cases going all over the map on that, I'm sure - it's like government numbers - you can make any case you want, even with the same numbers.)

Is it for everyone? No. Each individual needs to decide.
there are the practical sides which can't be argued against, but some of it is honestly a personal thing and some can't live without the power in their minds - even if in reality they could - there's a few of those in the world. It's almost a religion to a few.

I've worked in various things long enough to know each has their place.
I had an IH utility tractor that was a gasser - dang I really really wish that had been diesel - running the bean bar hour after hour through the fields........
I had two gas powered (Ford I6) grain trucks - would diesel had been nice in those - oh, yeah, but the gassers did ok for my use for the most part. I saw the advantage some had with the diesels.

I appreciate the objective and logical, factual arguments each way - it's some of the other stuff - come on, it's not a religion, and no one can tell anyone which to buy.
All anyone should do is lay out the facts, costs vs. benefits, advantages vs. disadvantages (perceived or real - and try to make it clear.

The "which should I buy" almost always gives me a chuckle as I see the wolf pack converge.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Twice a month, high maintenance. Big turd, we should cancel our insurance policies and toss them over a cliff to be reclaimed by the earth.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah, like diesel fuel is SOOOO much dirtier!
I never replaced my TRACTOR fuel filters that often - farm above ground fuel tanks.
Drain water, etc. yeah.

There's times I'm almost more worried about dirty gas than dirty diesel.

(I know, you aren't being serious.....)

 

[Sandevino]

Manufacturers discontinue engines for various regions and select markets all the time.

Get an extended warranty and go for it.

 

[Jteakus]

Talking about expenses and Gladiators, that's funny.
As I've said before, I wouldn't want my JT or JL without the diesel engine. It is a perfect match to the platform IMO. But hey, Jeep offers a 3.6 and a turbo 4 too so make your decision and roll with it. I wouldn't listen much to what those that don't own one (or two) have to say though.

 

[Jefe1018]

I think you get where I am coming from - at least on some days, I am.
I won't tell any diesel owner they were fools for that choice. That's just wrong in so many ways.
I will say - it's not for me, for multiple reasons.
If you live in certain areas, tow certain things in those areas, or wheel off-road in certain ways - it's going to make a lot of sense, costs be damned. (and we could find cases going all over the map on that, I'm sure - it's like government numbers - you can make any case you want, even with the same numbers.)

Is it for everyone? No. Each individual needs to decide.
there are the practical sides which can't be argued against, but some of it is honestly a personal thing and some can't live without the power in their minds - even if in reality they could - there's a few of those in the world. It's almost a religion to a few.

I've worked in various things long enough to know each has their place.
I had an IH utility tractor that was a gasser - dang I really really wish that had been diesel - running the bean bar hour after hour through the fields........
I had two gas powered (Ford I6) grain trucks - would diesel had been nice in those - oh, yeah, but the gassers did ok for my use for the most part. I saw the advantage some had with the diesels.

I appreciate the objective and logical, factual arguments each way - it's some of the other stuff - come on, it's not a religion, and no one can tell anyone which to buy.
All anyone should do is lay out the facts, costs vs. benefits, advantages vs. disadvantages (perceived or real - and try to make it clear.

The "which should I buy" almost always gives me a chuckle as I see the wolf pack converge.

Agreed. We had two choices form 2021-2023 and all owners made a choice. I think the 3.6 is a good, great motor even, but for what I wanted and could afford at the time I went the route I did. I’ve been called a fanatic for agreeing that my diesel is more expensive to run even though I laid out why although that may be true in day to day driving it becomes more practical to me with range, drivability when modified, etc.… and that my motor hasn’t failed, yet, but it will because they all do. That’s comical really. I could point at every vehicle on the road and say that… it’s been reliable but you wait and see it’ll fail.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah, like diesel fuel is SOOOO much dirtier!
I never replaced my TRACTOR fuel filters that often - farm above ground fuel tanks.
Drain water, etc. yeah.

There's times I'm almost more worried about dirty gas than dirty diesel.

(I know, you aren't being serious.....)

My family’s old 12 valve Cummins would run on anything I’d bet. I think in roughly 20 years my dad changes the fuel filter 3 or 4 times, if that. It just ran… I miss that truck.

Anything with a CP4 pump will be more sensitive to bad quality fuels, so MOPAR says drain every 10k and change every 20k. The average person drives 15,000 miles a year or something like that. It takes all of 5 minutes to drain the water and maybe 15 to swap the filter, including 8 minutes of not finding the socket for the filter housing.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

It takes all of 5 minutes to drain the water and maybe 15 to swap the filter, including 8 minutes of not finding the socket for the filter housing.

That's me - takes longer to find the "I'll put that where I'll remember it" tools and parts than to do the task itself.

 

[WMWHV]

I dropped mine off for the fuel pump recall yesterday morning and it was ready to pick up at noon today. I noticed a little booklet on the front seat as I was headed back to the office. I will study it more carefully when I get home tonight, but it changes the fuel and maintenance requirements for the vehicle. I am not sure what the fuel requirement was before, but it says that you cannot run anything over B5 in it unless you are in a state that mandates B20, in which case (and only in which case) you can run B20. It seems like it mentioned something about Minnesota in the summertime. It also appears we are now supposed to replace the fuel filter in addition to draining water every 10K miles.

 

[gladtohave]

Scotty Kilmer gave the eco a thumbs up and that's all I need

 

[Raven65]

You will be reading this in a 3.6 ?

Sure about that? The 3.6 is quicker than the 3.0 to 60 and in the quarter mile. LOL

 

[Rusty PW]

Manufacturers discontinue engines for various regions and select markets all the time.

Get an extended warranty and go for it.

How many different versions of the Power Stroke is out there?

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