392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

[Stan H]

Ya Yota's haven't been embarrassing the F out of Jeeps for decades on trails with leaf springs.

Your right they haven't been

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[Jeeper44mag]

Source: Jeep Gladiator 392 V8 Confirmed, Wrangler 392 Continuing Indefinitely

On Thursday, at a media briefing Jeep CEO Bob Broderdorf said the 392 cubic inch V8 engine will be leveraged in the Jeep lineup followed by, “Wrangler and Gladiator fans, and Hemi fans in general, don’t worry.”​

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After this announcement, it’s unlikely any Jeep fans are resting, as some might be hyperventilating. Who’s ready for a four-door pickup with removable doors, roof, and a huge V8 engine? Prepare your bank accounts.​

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Broderdorf said “after being out at the Rubicon Trail, it’s clear just how much people love the roar of the 392.” It’s worth noting, people traverse the Rubicon Trail at slow speeds, which means no engines are roaring.​

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“The 6.4-liter Hemi V8 will have a home at Jeep,” Broderdorf said.​

IDGAF about some $100k+ truck, and neither do 95% of the other Gladiator buyers. Offer the basic 5.7 as an upgrade for ~$5k like they did with the Ram 1500 (actually it was LESS than a $5k upcharge with the Ram 1500) so we can tow shit without feeling under-powered and you'll sell the heck out of them.

Otherwise you're only going to sell a few thousand units.... if that. Big freaking deal. It won't satisfy the MAJORITY of their market, and it won't convince the guy who would possibly buy a Gladiator instead of a full size Ram/Ford/Chevy 1500 *IF* he knew it could tow 6000-7000 lbs with authority. I've seen people posting on RV pages that the reason they went full size was that they knew the Gladiator wouldn't pull their 6k-7k lb Trailer well. Heck, I've made that recommendation to people myself.

 

[OldButStillJeeping]

IDGAF about some $100k+ truck,
I've seen people posting on RV pages that the reason they went full size was that they knew the Gladiator wouldn't pull their 6k-7k lb Trailer well. Heck, I've made that recommendation to people myself.

Me too.

The world would be covered in Jeep JTs with the 5.7 in 5 years if Stella would cut the profit margin the first 2 years. And reap the benefits the next 10 years.

 

[Chasm]

Not many will care if it's a 6.4 V8 or 5.7 V8 or a 3.0 turbo straight 6.

I'd accept the straight 6, but not with the turbo. I may fall into that "old dude" category though.

 

[Chasm]

Offer the basic 5.7 as an upgrade for ~$5k like they did with the Ram 1500

At a $5k upcharge from where I just bought, I might be willing to trade in even on the first year.

 

[BourbonRunner]

Back to the Main topic: I think Stellas new 3.0 straight 6 turbo is the one they have in mind. Maybe not. They can call it a "Hemi" because they own the rights.

Not that I am saying they won't......but it sure seems like they would have chosen to refer to that engine as a Hemi at some point before now if they were gonna go that route, right? I think trying that maneuver, at this point in time, on this vehicle, would just get them laughed out of the market.

This is why I've been advocating for them calling Hurricane a "Six Pack" instead.

As @ShadowsPapa and others explained (many times) the contemporary Hemi is no more than a Madison Avenue creation to pull on nostalgia for the era of carbureted muscle cars as opposed an honest-to-gosh hemispherical V8. Has not stopped them from selling those motors in the millions though.

So, that in mind, Stellysler could do the same with Six Pack. After all, nobody will really care that it really isn't a triple Holley'd fire breathing monster big block V8 because it didn't matter with the "Hemi."

And FWIW, **if** the JT is offered with an optional 5.7L V8, Hemi or otherwise, make mine a Mojave X in Fathom Blue. I'd pay $65-70K for it. But a 392 has no appeal to me. Especially at $100K.

 

[loganjeeps]

no whisper of course that a manual transmission would be an option with the V8. they probably wouldn't get it right anyway if it was offerred. oh well, my bank account will be happy i'm not on the wait list for one of these.

 

[RodRecket]

It ain't rage bait it is just a rational response to irrational thinking.
Again thing about it .. even going to a big V8 changes the characteristics of a super light nimble off road machine into a Horsepower Hard-hitting monstrosity
want to talk about frame stress, ball joints stress, spring stress .. dont try and label my comment which was in response to illogical thinking.
Rage on that !!!

It ain't rage bait it is just a rational response to irrational thinking.
Again thing about it .. even going to a big V8 changes the characteristics of a super light nimble off road machine into a Horsepower Hard-hitting monstrosity
want to talk about frame stress, ball joints stress, spring stress .. dont try and label my comment which was in response to illogical thinking.
Rage on that !!!

They stuck a 392 in the JL...a lighter more nimble vehicle than the JT so there's really not much to overthink. Its been done.

I was saying the idea of replacing coils with leaf springs is the rage bait and just using your response as a point of reference.

Dont worry, I'm not labeling you so dont get too excited.

 

[Stan H]

My old F & R leaf suspension flexed all day
-Front: sprung over W/ 2 inch CJ Front springs with a leaf removed from main pack , missing link drop shackles and a panhard bar
-Rear: Sprung over W/ 2 inch Front YJ springs

I reached possibly the end tuning wise between the balance of flex, articulation and fighting wheel hop. Hence, why I ended up linking it and moving over to Nitrogen charged struts .. completely skipping over coils

But what was being discussed in terms of springs is a fa tory set up. That is as far from factory as it gets in terms of leaf springs. 99% of people aren't going to have knowledge or capabilities to deconstruct a factory set up into an off road capable set up like that.
To pay for a Jeep with leaf springs from the factory is going backwards. That is why when Jeep came out with the Wranglers with coil springs it was a game changer for the average casual off-roader with little to no mods a person had more capable climber than ever before.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The Jeepers were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of hemi roars danced in their heads...............

Just kidding, messing around........

 

[Zachanadandy]

They sure as hell aren't running coils either. They are running triple rate coilovers on 6' long lower control arms with 18" travel tucked 3/4 of the way up the cab. Not ideal for mass production or the real world. Axle wrap? Oh you're talking about the brainless employees that have zero clue how to drive and drop the clutch? We weed them out and hand them their papers real quick. Those morons manage to destroy 4 link systems just as easily. As the owner of a repair shop, I've seen no shortage of morons destroying those Ram suspensions. My wife loved her Kelderman system but it wasn't doing jack shit offroad. It was installed for easy ingress egress due to her RA. My nephew thought his Ram 1500 air ride system was really cool until he took it to the ranch and it all fell apart.

The idea that leaf springs are better for speed is absurd. Sure trophy trucks are the extreme example, but most ultra 4 cars run links and coilovers, which are just coils skeins and shocks in 1 package for space and easier timing but functionally no different than running a coil and shock like the Jeep. The fact that you allude to modern tech leaning towards leafs is absurd. They are going away everywhere. Full sized trucks, mid sized trucks, go fast, rock crawlers, semi trucks, nobody is building with leaves anymore. And deavers aren't new or any different than they were 20+ years ago.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The idea that leaf springs are better for speed is absurd.

I wonder why some of my drag racing friends who take AMCs down the track at ludicrous speeds tend to swap the rear leaf springs out for 4 link systems with a panhard or watts (ok, call it a track bar!)
https://theamcforum.com/forum/four-link-rear_topic62559.html

I had so much trouble with my 70 Javelin, I had to replace the rear springs and rebuild a set of torque links. Otherwise it just wrapped the springs and weight transfer didn't exist.
For the 73, I had to put Caltrac link system on the leaf springs

 

[OldButStillJeeping]

So. Since this thread went to suspension systems... from Stella engines...

It's a free for all...

Here's mine...

Max the bearded terrier (terror) and BC the love pup. Both mutts. Both the love of my life.

Which is better? Both. Both full of love.

Be well. Jeep on.

Eric

 

[Janster]

My old F & R leaf suspension flexed all day
-Front: sprung over W/ 2 inch CJ Front springs with a leaf removed from main pack , missing link drop shackles and a panhard bar
-Rear: Sprung over W/ 2 inch Front YJ springs

I reached possibly the end tuning wise between the balance of flex, articulation and fighting wheel hop. Hence, why I ended up linking it and moving over to Nitrogen charged struts .. completely skipping over coils

Our old YJ flexed pretty damn good for being SPRUNG UNDER leaf springs…..We had ford shock towers, and 1” body lift to help with ’stuff’

I’ve seen many guys with Tacoma solid axle swaps that ran sprung over …and those things flexed like crazy!!!

Besides…. Who cares about suspension travel when you’ve got lockers.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

It ain't rage bait it is just a rational response to irrational thinking.
Again thing about it .. even going to a big V8 changes the characteristics of a super light nimble off road machine into a Horsepower Hard-hitting monstrosity
want to talk about frame stress, ball joints stress, spring stress .. dont try and label my comment which was in response to illogical thinking.
Rage on that !!!

Super light nimble off road machine? Are you still talking about a JT?

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