You can keep the overly complicated and failure prone I6. The power AND reliability is why so many want the v8. The 5.7L in my ram was driven hard for 120k miles with nothing but basic maintenance. Still problem free when I sold it.
Arguing power over all else is certainly common but it misses the value of the subjective. Dodge dropped the V8s at the end of 2023 and in 2024 and 2025 they sold between 70-90% fewer Chargers those years. The V8 is making a come back because of the subjective value they provide to the buyers that buy them. True to its meaning though, subjective also accounts for the fact that some people will never understand that value.
The VVT adds something like 20% more power under the curve in the dyno videos I've seen so I'd hardly call that "just to complicate it". I'm with you on the MDS being useless, but that's easily turned off with a tazer no limits or other aftermarket plug in option. Even in the stock "complicated" form the Hemi has proven far more reliable than the hurricane.
My boss has a 5.7 Ram (its a fourth gen, not sure what year) and I'm pretty sure its sitting at around 180K miles with no issues other than the manifolds starting to tick slightly.
I really like the VVT in my Camaro. The torque curve looks like a plateau. All 400 lb feet of torque from like 2800 to 5000 RPM. Flat line, lol. It pulls like a monster for a stock engine.
I've had the exact same conversation with the wife already. It's already lifted and modified the way I want and even the $38k for the 6.4L is way cheaper than a new truck. She was surprisingly on board.My boss has a 5.7 Ram (its a fourth gen, not sure what year) with a 5.7L and I'm pretty sure its sitting at around 180K miles with no issues other than the manifolds starting to tick slightly.
He bought a Honda Pilot to daily and haul visitors around in so I guess it's finally catching a break
I joked with my ole lady recently that once my Gladiator is paid off, maybe I could look at a Hemi swap (5.7) if I could find a way to get the money.
She said how much? Im like $35K but its basically a new drivetrain and more.
She says 'Hmm, well I mean it's kinda worth it cause that's all the most expensive stuff to fix in a vehicle anyway....'
Girl is not helping our finances, lol.
The power is the only thing that gets me. It's a great truck, Jeeps have become my 'safe space' vehicle wise. I've had them for the last 9 years, been all over the country in them, I know their quirks, etc.
Those faster turbo options don’t do so well against a V8 with forced induction.
Does she have a sister?? J/KMy boss has a 5.7 Ram (its a fourth gen, not sure what year) and I'm pretty sure its sitting at around 180K miles with no issues other than the manifolds starting to tick slightly.
He bought a Honda Pilot to daily and haul visitors around in so I guess it's finally catching a break
I joked with my ole lady recently that once my Gladiator is paid off, maybe I could look at a Hemi swap (5.7) if I could find a way to get the money.
She said how much? Im like $35K but its basically a new drivetrain and more.
She says 'Hmm, well I mean it's kinda worth it cause that's all the most expensive stuff to fix in a vehicle anyway....'
Girl is not helping our finances, lol.
I did here something but it was kind of vague.. the timeframe was something like 28 or 30
Yeah, same. I kinda figured it was way out if there’s so little info. Out. ……..assuming it s a thing of course.
I'm normally not of the tinfoil hat wearing persuasion but I'm making an exception here.
