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Instead of a lift have you considered finding a set of take off rubi or mojave flares? The high clearance flares will give you plenty of clearance for 35s. Then throw on a small leveling kit and a set of sway bar disconnects
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So I like the completeness of the AEV 2" spacer, however it reuses the junky stock shocks and non quick disconnecting sway bar links. I'm wondering if for the relative same price of the AEV kit, is there a similar complete kit of equal quality which uses better shocks or springs?

I'm on a '22 Sport with 34.5x10.5R17 doing 95% street usage and occasionally I want to be able to decently off road. I guess do I even need to lift it with those tires? How are the stock springs? What would you do in that budget? I don't want to compromise ride quality either. Ty!
There isn’t any lift within a mile of that price range, that won’t be lacking. Everyone’s right that had recommended waiting until the budget can be increased.
 

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There isn’t any lift within a mile of that price range, that won’t be lacking. Everyone’s right that had recommended waiting until the budget can be increased.
Others that have mentioned cost effective ways to fit larger tires aren’t wrong, but when you go larger, steering really needs to be addressed to make sure it’s still safe on the road. Stock steering just doesn’t handle larger tires very well.
 
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Instead of a lift have you considered finding a set of take off rubi or mojave flares? The high clearance flares will give you plenty of clearance for 35s. Then throw on a small leveling kit and a set of sway bar disconnects
I haven't heard of this option, I honestly don't care for suspension per se, more to make sure my tires can articulate.
 

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I have done plenty of 'cheap' lift setups on vehicles in the past, none of them were great and always required a 2nd or 3rd upgrade.. Do it as close to right as possible the 1st time! Don't waste money or Rubi take offs, if you want factory take offs the Mojave shocks are worth it, but will again require extensions with a lift, but ride amazing...
 

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There isn’t any lift within a mile of that price range, that won’t be lacking. Everyone’s right that had recommended waiting until the budget can be increased.
I agree to a point. The stock sport and rubicon shocks aren't worth retaining which leaves the aev spacer kit lacking. But, for us mojave owners, we already have the best shocks jeep has ever offered from the factory. If you're only lifting 2" you don't need anything else. The axles end up ~1/4" off center at ride height, no need for adjustable track bars. The caster is still 4.8⁰, not optimal but more than sufficient. Even on 37s the stock steering has been fine so far for 16k+ miles and is been run hard in the desert. Will the tie rod ends and ball joints wear out quicker than they would on stock tires? Of course, but even the $$$$ lift kits don't come with steering or ball joints so it's irrelevant. The mojave shocks could use some more travel, especially if you're building a rock crawler. The problem is in order to get shocks that dampen any where near as well at speed in the desert you'll be $3k+ into shocks alone.
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Others that have mentioned cost effective ways to fit larger tires aren’t wrong, but when you go larger, steering really needs to be addressed to make sure it’s still safe on the road. Stock steering just doesn’t handle larger tires very well.
I think this is the biggest myth on the Jeep forums. Our 2019 JLUR had 63k miles on it when it was stolen. Riding on 37s or 38s for most of that. Multiple trips to Moab, the Rubicon trail, the dusy, and 27 BOH trails all over the country. The steering stabilizer was flipped on top of the tie rod for clearance not function. The drag link was replaced and flipped on top of the knuckle at 41k miles, not because it was worn out but to allow more droop. The factory ball joints lasted 35k miles. And the best part.... the tie rod was still stock. We replaced that Jeep with our 2022 JLUR with the xr package. It comes from the factory with the same steering components as a base rubicon...and 35s. Under warranty for 36k miles but the internet says stock steering won't handle 35s well? It's been doing it in tens of thousands of Jeeps for likely millions of miles. For the last 15k miles that Jeep has been on 39s. Again flipped drag link and steering stabilizer, and a stock tire rod. My mojave sees freeway plus speeds in the desert regularly, on 37s and 100% stock steering. I haven't even relocated the stabilizer as it's not our rock rig.
 

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I think this is the biggest myth on the Jeep forums. Our 2019 JLUR had 63k miles on it when it was stolen. Riding on 37s or 38s for most of that. Multiple trips to Moab, the Rubicon trail, the dusy, and 27 BOH trails all over the country. The steering stabilizer was flipped on top of the tie rod for clearance not function. The drag link was replaced and flipped on top of the knuckle at 41k miles, not because it was worn out but to allow more droop. The factory ball joints lasted 35k miles. And the best part.... the tie rod was still stock. We replaced that Jeep with our 2022 JLUR with the xr package. It comes from the factory with the same steering components as a base rubicon...and 35s. Under warranty for 36k miles but the internet says stock steering won't handle 35s well? It's been doing it in tens of thousands of Jeeps for likely millions of miles. For the last 15k miles that Jeep has been on 39s. Again flipped drag link and steering stabilizer, and a stock tire rod. My mojave sees freeway plus speeds in the desert regularly, on 37s and 100% stock steering. I haven't even relocated the stabilizer as it's not our rock rig.
I can second this being a myth. Similar experiences with mine doing the harder trails. With other vehicles running larger tires (Toyotas) it’s definitely a thing, so maybe some of that from those forums is carrying over to here.
 

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I agree to a point. The stock sport and rubicon shocks aren't worth retaining which leaves the aev spacer kit lacking. But, for us mojave owners, we already have the best shocks jeep has ever offered from the factory. If you're only lifting 2" you don't need anything else. The axles end up ~1/4" off center at ride height, no need for adjustable track bars. The caster is still 4.8⁰, not optimal but more than sufficient. Even on 37s the stock steering has been fine so far for 16k+ miles and is been run hard in the desert. Will the tie rod ends and ball joints wear out quicker than they would on stock tires? Of course, but even the $$$$ lift kits don't come with steering or ball joints so it's irrelevant. The mojave shocks could use some more travel, especially if you're building a rock crawler. The problem is in order to get shocks that dampen any where near as well at speed in the desert you'll be $3k+ into shocks alone.
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I can second this being a myth. Similar experiences with mine doing the harder trails. With other vehicles running larger tires (Toyotas) it’s definitely a thing, so maybe some of that from those forums is carrying over to here.
Maybe it’s luck. Or maybe it’s weather - salt, etc in the rust belt in PA and/or maybe heavy, larger tires and other weight?? I’m on 37s on my 2020 JTR, on a Rustys 2” advanced lift plus 1.5” Teraflex leveling kit. My Jeep weighs a portly 5815lbs with me in it (I’m 220).
My steering was shot at 4 years and 40k miles. Mostly highway, daily driver, Northeast trails/camping/hunting - pretty tame overall. Both tie rod ends, the knuckle side joint of the draglink were shot. The stock stabilizer was fine. The only good joint was the draglink at the steering box end. Ironically,it just pulled, it didn’t really wobble and I didn’t get any death wobble until I fixed the steering with a Rusty’s Aluminum HD kit. The DW went away with new tires. Like everything with Jeeps 
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I can second this being a myth. Similar experiences with mine doing the harder trails. With other vehicles running larger tires (Toyotas) it’s definitely a thing, so maybe some of that from those forums is carrying over to here.
And confirmation bias, nobody wants to admit they spent $700-1,000 upgrading steering links that were perfectly functional. Don't get me wrong, if you bash the stock tire rod into rocks you'll kill it, where alt of these aftermarket upgrades can be bounced off rocks no problem. Of course if you pick better lines you aren't bashing the tie rod into rocks....
 

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Maybe it’s luck. Or maybe it’s weather - salt, etc in the rust belt in PA and/or maybe heavy, larger tires and other weight?? I’m on 37s on my 2020 JTR, on a Rustys 2” advanced lift plus 1.5” Teraflex leveling kit. My Jeep weighs a portly 5815lbs with me in it (I’m 220).
My steering was shot at 4 years and 40k miles. Mostly highway, daily driver, Northeast trails/camping/hunting - pretty tame overall. Both tie rod ends, the knuckle side joint of the draglink were shot. The stock stabilizer was fine. The only good joint was the draglink at the steering box end. Ironically,it just pulled, it didn’t really wobble and I didn’t get any death wobble until I fixed the steering with a Rusty’s Aluminum HD kit. The DW went away with new tires. Like everything with Jeeps 
YMMV and Just Empty Every Pocket.
I wouldn't call worn tire rods at 40k miles a necessary upgrade when lifting a new Jeep though? Sure they will wear faster with larger tires, but so do the aftermarket ends in my experience. Odds are your rusty's steering will need new ends in ~40k too.
 

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I haven't heard of this option, I honestly don't care for suspension per se, more to make sure my tires can articulate.
If all you care about is tire clearance then thats the way to go in my opinion. My wifes jl sport has the standard flares with a 2 in lift and my gladiator sport has the high clearance flares with no lift and i have more space for bigger tires than she does plus as a side benefit they are a hair wider to so less rocks hitting the side of your jeep
 

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So I like the completeness of the AEV 2" spacer, however it reuses the junky stock shocks and non quick disconnecting sway bar links. I'm wondering if for the relative same price of the AEV kit, is there a similar complete kit of equal quality which uses better shocks or springs?

I'm on a '22 Sport with 34.5x10.5R17 doing 95% street usage and occasionally I want to be able to decently off road. I guess do I even need to lift it with those tires? How are the stock springs? What would you do in that budget? I don't want to compromise ride quality either. Ty!
I went with the Teraflex 1.5” leveling kit and kept it when I went to my full lift. That’s $125. I added 3/4” Daystar spacers on the back and kept them with my lift - that was $45. I cleared 37s on a stock Rubi. I just went to Bilstein 5100s for about $450 on sale. That gets you a little more room with good components.
 

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I wouldn't call worn tire rods at 40k miles a necessary upgrade when lifting a new Jeep though? Sure they will wear faster with larger tires, but so do the aftermarket ends in my experience. Odds are your rusty's steering will need new ends in ~40k too.
Agreed. My plan was to drive them until they failed. I thought I’d get 75k miles - not sure why. I hope I get a bit more than 40k out of Rustys for the price and the beefiness.
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