8 speed done at 22k

[dos0711]

Do they rebuild anything anymore? I don't think so.

Anything under warranty just gets a new assembly.

Too true. Rebuilding anything is becoming a lost art it seems

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[Wheelin98TJ]

i would think he would be safe up to at least 35s. What size does the op have?

They are 35s.

 

[dcmdon]

Either way, they must disclose what they used, and a reman has to have the identifying sticker on it. And it's not just for you - IMO, Jeep would want to know in case they saw a pattern of any troubles with anything coming from a certain plant. I mean - they pay good money for those parts, Jeep would surely want to make sure they were getting decent product since Jeep has to stand behind it for the duration of your drive train warranty.
Good luck, we're pulling for you.

What are your thoughts on whether a reman might be BETTER than new??

My uncle was a professional photographer and always insisted on buying refurbished Nikon equipment. His rational was that the refurbished stuff was hand checked and hand calibrated by engineers in their Long Island facility, not assembled by a line worker.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

What are your thoughts on whether a reman might be BETTER than new??

My uncle was a professional photographer and always insisted on buying refurbished Nikon equipment. His rational was that the refurbished stuff was hand checked and hand calibrated by engineers in their Long Island facility, not assembled by a line worker.

I have yet to see it in reality.
You are saying that the cameras are not checked or calibrated when new? And ONLY remanufacturers do that?
And then there's the case - for almost any item you can come up with, there are multiple places doing the "remanufacturing".
I have yet to see anything automotive remanufactured that's better.

I'll pick on electronics since I used to work for an electronic engineering company, surrounded by EEs and QA people..............
So you have something with some electronics to it - anything with a board and components.
It's being "remanufactured". Do they replace every single electronic component in that item - or do they check to see that it works, and pass it down the line?
I ask this because electronics fail at power-up.
So unless that item has the whole board replaced - regardless, it may have only so many more power cycles left.

I've watched videos of new transmissions being assembled - it's hard to imagine that there's more care in a remanufacturing facility because those people are also jut line workers. They get paid no more, maybe even less, depending on union situations. Why would anyone in a building that remanufactures anything care any more than someone building it new?

The ones that come to mind with the most detail for me were the plants where the people were sitting on stools disassembling things and tossing the parts into wire baskets to be take through the cleaning tanks. And I mean tossed. It wasn't well lit, and there wasn't any rhyme nor reason or tracking things and keeping them apart. A part from one item may end up in another part number of that item because it fit.

I recall carburetors - Throttle body for a 4300 from a Ford ended up on the carburetor that got marked for a 70 AMC - and the PCV port on that throttle body - oops, there shouldn't be one, we'll fill it with putty (it should stay).
Linkages would be mismatched and so on.
Transmissions - going back a few years, but there were different variations of the TF727. Did it matter which clutch packs went into which case? Naw, they're all 727s even though one for this engine should have more plates and disks than one for that engine. So - when you bought a reman transmission you have been putting the light duty guts behind the bigger engine.
They don't do auto parts one piece at a time.

Starters - wrong thrust washers, wrong drive, wrong drive end housing, wrong bushings. They were all Ford starters, right? Well, they may have looked that way - but they varied by year and engine. Doesn't matter, it's all Ford, take 'em apart, toss things into that basket, they'll be cleaned and then the people on the other end will pull parts out of the basket and start building starters.

Alternators - uh, that's a 1971 and later model - what's it doing with that isolation diode on it? Those years don't hove those...........

Maybe some tiny little outfit was doing cameras and they were small and paid attention and did it better or differently - sounds the way you worded it that it was a Nikon facility. That's very very different. No comparison to automotive stuff, and you are not likely to interchange parts in those and have them work in the end. If it was Nikon owned, then there was likely no difference between it or new. Even at that, I can't see it being better - most likely the same - parts still have age and wear, and electronics are still a risk.

But my money is still on new, or a rebuilder for auto parts.

 

[Alan_Hepburn]

Reminds me of the 1974 Dodge Colt we once owned: eventually, the timing chain jumped a tooth or two and ate the engine. While we were rebuilding it we found out that at some point during the production of the 1974 models Mitsubishi introduced a "small" change in the engine - among the changes was the exhaust ports in the head changed from round to square. The only way to know which one you had was to find the engine serial number.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

My Jeep is already done. I'm pretty surprised. Only 19 days at the dealer.

I'm picking it up later today and will update if its a new or used part.

 

[Orange01z28]

This just sounds like shitty luck to be honest

The ZF 8 speed is probably the best transmission on the market right now

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

This just sounds like shitty luck to be honest

The ZF 8 speed is probably the best transmission on the market right now

I agree, not many of these things failing.

I suppose anything can happen these days with the parts and labor shortages.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

I confirmed with the Service Advisor it did get a new transmission. Paperwork also shows this.

It also got a new trans cooler and a software update.

 

[Moe Morales]

I confirmed with the Service Advisor it did get a new transmission. Paperwork also shows this.

It also got a new trans cooler and a software update.

How’s your New Transmission . I’m getting my transmission replaced this week . Old transmission would shift hard into reverse and slip from 3rd into 4th 2020 Rubicon 30,000 miles

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

How’s your New Transmission . I’m getting my transmission replaced this week . Old transmission would shift hard into reverse and slip from 3rd into 4th 2020 Rubicon 30,000 miles

No issues, all good. Only a couple thousand miles though.

 

[Moe Morales]

No issues, all good. Only a couple thousand miles though.

That’s Good to Hear

 

[DirkG]

This just sounds like shitty luck to be honest

The ZF 8 speed is probably the best transmission on the market right now

The ZF 8sp is lightyears ahead of the ZF 9HP in our Acura MDX. Just the other day I told my wife that if the Gladiator's tranny was in the MDX, we'd drive it to 300K miles. I love the performance and crisp shifts of the ZF 850RE tranny.

 

[dcmdon]

The ZF 8sp is lightyears ahead of the ZF 9HP in our Acura MDX. Just the other day I told my wife that if the Gladiator's tranny was in the MDX, we'd drive it to 300K miles. I love the performance and crisp shifts of the ZF 850RE tranny.

I agree. It does an excellent job of masking the fact that we are driving 5000 lb vehicles powered by. a naturally aspirated V6 with only 280 hp and 260 ft-lbs of torque.

 

[RickF]

My transmission failed at 53K miles. It started with slamming into 4th to an extent that I would baby it trying to avoid that initial hard shift, after which it would shift between gears smoothly again. When it got to the point where it would not shift past 3rd at all sometimes without turning off the engine and restarting it, and to the point where the shifting problems were completely predicable such that the dealer couldn't possibly miss them, I took it in for warranty work. It was 35 days until I got it back. My cost was zero. I have 9K miles on the new transmission and it works perfectly. So, other than the terrible wait (with no loaner offered despite my protests), they did it right and all is well again.

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