The CRM replaces the coils and is available in 0”, 2” or4” lift. The ASAM replaces the bump stops and is helper only. I believe it has longer bags available and a few guys have modified the lower mount to accommodate more flex.
timbrens mount in the factory bump stop location on the frame side, not on the axleTimbren was an option when I got the airlift springs. The only reason that I didn't go with Timbren is because it mounts to the axles. The airlift springs sit in a cup. I can deflate the bags and still rock crawl like they aren't even there. They work perfect with my 3.5" lift because my lift my bump stop plate is removed which means the bags don't touch when deflated and it maintains the normal, stiff as hell, lift kit ride.I have air springs on my Ram as well and they mount to the axles. Nothing wrong with that setup at all as it seems like timbren has a great product. But, because of my uses, I just didn't want that type of mounting setup for my jeep. That's only the situation for MY jeep. If not for that, I would've went with Timbren.
I know. Kept getting timber Grove and timbren confused because he the spelling is closely related.
I was just talking to Steve @TimberGrove. He’s got me rethinking some things.I have the Timber Grove CRM Coil Replacement Mount
https://timbergroveenterprises.com/shop/19-up-jeep-gladiator-s-4-lift-crm-axle-mounts-sq4331060
Controlled with the Airlift Wireless Air dual bag controller and the wireless air tank upgrade. Allows me to keep the ride height I want for any weight load.
What’s your experience with them?
Yes I’m happy with them. The fit is great and I love having the ability to adjust for different weights in the bed and when towing a trailer. No saggy rear. The bags that he provides have 8.9” of travel from fully collapsed to fully extended so not for guys looking for max articulation. These bags have an internal bump stop, Firestone also sells a matching bag w/o internal bump stops which would give 9.6 max travel but they’re spendy so I decided to run the provided bags
I only have Timber Grove Air Springs on my 2015 Ram EcoDiesel. The 2020 Ram EcoDiesel has the factory air suspension. Steve's customer service is second to none, and his products are top notch. I 100% recommend Timber Grove products.
Started their own company to become part of Fox Factory?
Thanks. I talked to Steve again today. Kinda confirmed what you said, however all the bags he uses have internal bumps. Safety feature in case the bags have no air, to protect the bag from sitting on itself.
